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Ferreting out the fakes in the chip supply chain

8/15/2011 01:01 PM EDT
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Cliff Keller
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Cliff Keller   8/15/2011 7:55:33 PM
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I disagree with the tone of this article. It is actually very easy to avoid counterfeit and reused devices. Just buy the devices directly from the supplier or through franchised distributors. The problems come from buying through "gray market" sources to save a little money.

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maryl19   8/16/2011 12:10:00 AM
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It is not always a matter of money. Sometimes the "gray market" is the only choice if you are supporting designs that require obsolete components when there are issues redesigning the product to use newer parts. I believe the article mentions this in relation to the military and aerospace industries.

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Etmax   8/16/2011 12:18:56 AM
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I'm sorry Cliff, but the author did cover what you said elaborating on how the parts make their way into the "official" channels. Yes most of it is grey market, but there are exceptions. Consider also that the semi companies now manufacture in china and distribute to the world from there. What makes you think that a country that puts melamine in baby milk resulting in kidney damage won't add a duds to the mix?

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ibm221   8/16/2011 7:32:46 AM
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this is devil, dude, and it's everywhere. US president could also lie about his everything.

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Zappers   8/16/2011 1:11:59 PM
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It is not only US where counterfeit portable memory chips are sold but all over the world. Memory Chips (especially upgraded ones which are originally 512Mb are sold as 2GB) are sold one third of the price of original 2GB memory Chips. I am almost postive that Asia consumes probably equally or even much more of these counterfeits than USA today!!!

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DrQuine   8/16/2011 2:00:48 PM
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A really effective means to secure the supply chain would have wide application across many industries. The same problem affects the pharmaceutical business where counterfeit pills sometimes manage to cross into the "legitimate" distribution channels.

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ddeisz208   8/16/2011 3:03:06 PM
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Buy from Authorized Distributors first and then go to independents if there is no Authorized solution anywhere. Franchised does not mean Authorized necessarily. If buyers consistently want to buy based primarily on price or who they have worked with in the past, regardless if they are authorized, counterfeit will continue to grow. Rochester Electronics has over 500,000 obsolete device types. This obsolete product story along with many other Authorized providers/solutions means most of the obsolete market is covered very well. No excuses not to buy Authorized when that solution is available in my opinion.

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prabhakar_deosthali   8/17/2011 6:48:04 AM
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Buy from the supplier who is ready to take back his supplies if the parts are found to be fake. As long as this guarantee is given by the supplier, you don't have to worry if the supplier is an authorized distributor or an independent one

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agk   8/17/2011 7:40:20 AM
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A difficult area to make counterfeits. Once at my work place we found that QC rejected whole lot of elctronic isolators as it was not meeting the production specifications. The samples were brought to us. We could not find any difference in the product when compared with the previous lot. but still they were failing. That was tested stage by stage and we found that an op amp was not performing as it should. Few samples were brought from the stocks in our stores. Examined under magnifier and found to be a fake one. While seeing the purchase records it was supplied by a dealer who is not an authorised for that brand. The part was again purchased from an authorised seller and all the isolators reworked with this part. Then it passed in the QC.

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ddeisz208   8/17/2011 11:32:59 AM
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Except this requires YOU to figure out if you have a problem. You have to take on the burden of proof and risk to your product and schedules. Authorized sources with fully authorized product ensure no counterfeit.

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