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Ferreting out the fakes in the chip supply chain

8/15/2011 01:01 PM EDT
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mountaincore
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mountaincore   8/17/2011 7:49:17 PM
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Accept that is rewards bad behavior.

Cliff Keller
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Cliff Keller   8/17/2011 7:39:42 PM
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Yes, you could even get bad parts direct from the Manufacturer. But, in the supply chain buying direct or through the franchised distributors drastically cuts the chances of getting bogus parts. Franchised distributors will be terminated by the supplier if they sell "gray market" devices, and that is too big a penalty for them to risk.

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Saturation   8/17/2011 7:11:52 PM
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A scary part is, and reiterated in this article, even if you buy from authorized distributors you can still get counterfeit instead. It seems in-house testing is the most foolproof way to spot them, and if they meet design specification, it won't matter if its counterfeit.

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RogerD_#2   8/17/2011 3:28:07 PM
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How much longer are we going to tolerate the inaction of the Chinese government to halt counterfeiting of all types - from ICs to Apple Stores?!?!?!? The Chinese authorities only give lip-service to the world's complaints about rampant counterfeiting, while at the same time allowing it with a wink and a nod - it's all about money folks, money=power, and the Chinese government is bound and determined to become the most powerful entity on the planet by whatever means necessary. You think China really cares about counterfeiting as long as it brings in profits to their country?? Don't be naive! China is the problem - and nobody is taking decisive action to stop them!

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AMPT/OEM-Sales   8/17/2011 2:15:33 PM
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Or partner with a reliable Independent Distributor like Advanced MP Technology which has all of the precautionary measures (laboratory-grade high-powered microscope, an X-ray inspection system, decapping capabilities, strict ISO 9001: 2008 & ISO AS9120:2009-A QC Procedures) in accordence with each of our individual customers stringent shipping and receiving requirments to ensure the authenticity of the product. www.linkedin.com/in/mikestifter

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ddeisz208   8/17/2011 11:32:59 AM
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Except this requires YOU to figure out if you have a problem. You have to take on the burden of proof and risk to your product and schedules. Authorized sources with fully authorized product ensure no counterfeit.

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agk   8/17/2011 7:40:20 AM
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A difficult area to make counterfeits. Once at my work place we found that QC rejected whole lot of elctronic isolators as it was not meeting the production specifications. The samples were brought to us. We could not find any difference in the product when compared with the previous lot. but still they were failing. That was tested stage by stage and we found that an op amp was not performing as it should. Few samples were brought from the stocks in our stores. Examined under magnifier and found to be a fake one. While seeing the purchase records it was supplied by a dealer who is not an authorised for that brand. The part was again purchased from an authorised seller and all the isolators reworked with this part. Then it passed in the QC.

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prabhakar_deosthali   8/17/2011 6:48:04 AM
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Buy from the supplier who is ready to take back his supplies if the parts are found to be fake. As long as this guarantee is given by the supplier, you don't have to worry if the supplier is an authorized distributor or an independent one

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ddeisz208   8/16/2011 3:03:06 PM
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Buy from Authorized Distributors first and then go to independents if there is no Authorized solution anywhere. Franchised does not mean Authorized necessarily. If buyers consistently want to buy based primarily on price or who they have worked with in the past, regardless if they are authorized, counterfeit will continue to grow. Rochester Electronics has over 500,000 obsolete device types. This obsolete product story along with many other Authorized providers/solutions means most of the obsolete market is covered very well. No excuses not to buy Authorized when that solution is available in my opinion.

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DrQuine   8/16/2011 2:00:48 PM
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A really effective means to secure the supply chain would have wide application across many industries. The same problem affects the pharmaceutical business where counterfeit pills sometimes manage to cross into the "legitimate" distribution channels.

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