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The real role of EDA in the Cloud

3/23/2011 00:05 AM EDT
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LinusE
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LinusE   4/6/2011 12:41:06 AM
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The cloud, for the lack of a better word is good! While we are so jazzed about information access and control over the internet; the next generation is here with the cloud. It certainly ups the ante in sharing resources, access and transfer of data and tools and even designs that it provides for the consumers that need these services. The future is bright for providers/ innovators of cloud services. Even though there are technical challenges, there is opportunity for those that innovate and provide products and services. Adds a new meaning to - There is a silver lining to every cloud - huh? :) Linus Eugene

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N5ACSteve   3/27/2011 1:11:15 PM
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The toolset or building blocks to build a cloud application is exactly what Microsoft Azure is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_Services_Platform There may be others doing this as well.

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Mike.Beunder   3/26/2011 4:12:18 PM
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As Rob correctly notes, just hosting a tool in the cloud isn't really what this is about. Actual value comes in several ways, ranging from optimal use of compute resources to reduced overhead and simplified support. As a user you will get more value for your money as the tool provider can focus on true functionality instead of spending significant effort on supporting a wide range of different platforms. Instead, support for 3-4 standard browsers does the job. One should also consider the full "package" which means both technical (e.g. how does the actual design flow work) and commercial (e.g. what business model is used). Success requires getting the complete offering right, not just getting your tool in the cloud. Vector Fabrics (www.vectorfabrics.com) provides cloud-based tools for multicore programming since early 2010.

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moxbox   3/24/2011 4:35:38 PM
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It's been done several time with only limited success - Synopsys DesignSphere, Toolwire, etc. were all popular in the "E-everything" days of the late 90's and early 2000/2001 timeframe. Before the "dot-bomb" recession killed most of them off. It is still very feasible - however the "Balkanization" of EDA vendors makes putting an end to end EDA tool chain together ulikely to happen any time soon.

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dougwithau   3/24/2011 3:24:57 PM
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Open question to anyone who actually reads the comments: Would you (or your company) use a tool in the cloud? What tool do you think would work best? Software tools seem good, PCB layout seems to graphics intensive. Maybe autoroute on a super parallel GPU server. How much or how would you pay? A monthly subscription, or yearly. Pay per project, what is the plan people?

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ocoudert   3/23/2011 3:59:35 PM
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Getting EDA into the cloud means three things: (1) re-architect EDA tools to take advantage of very large clusters; (2) address the security concerns that most semi and design houses have; and (3) propose an attractive business model that goes behind time-based licenses. See http://bit.ly/ierZ6b and its follow-up http://bit.ly/frswwd

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Max The Magnificent   3/23/2011 12:16:20 AM
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A couple of years ago I'd never heard of "The Cloud" -- now it's popping up everywhere -- for example, as per my recent blog (http://bit.ly/gBpzUM), I now backup my working data in the cloud in real-time... I think that we're at the beginning of something huge ... and that we really have no idea where all of this will take us...

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