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Haiwang International Electronics
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Haiwang International Electronics   1/30/2013 7:56:50 AM
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Keith-Richman   10/23/2011 3:15:46 PM
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Just a FYI...Simplified Solutions has released IDF-to-3D. This is a web based tool with an integrated 3D library that allows the user to generate 3D PCBs in 1-2 hours. Use of the tool is free and you can view a 3D PDF of your 3D PCB prior to purchasing the output in STEP format. For more information, please see www.simplifiedsolutionsinc.com

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Manuel Rei   8/16/2011 3:35:18 PM
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Hello All, Thanks for your comments. If you would like to have any detailed information on how CATIA V6 can help you designing flexibles PCBs, please contact me. My email is manuel.rei@3ds.com

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Estelle Fernandez   8/16/2011 9:32:44 AM
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You can as well listen to the e-Seminar posted here : https://3ds.webex.com/ec0605l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?siteurl=3ds&theAction=poprecord&recordID=40564422&pso_3ds_flag=from3dsh

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docdivakar   7/27/2011 11:02:25 PM
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Yes, there are solutions available today as @RWatkins mentioned but they cost a lot! I second the need to model Cu traces and lands on the board. It is very much needed for multiple needs including power management, thermal, EMI, etc. MP Divakar

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_hm   7/21/2011 5:07:52 PM
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@Rwatkins: Yes, what you mentioned is very much true. I had around 800 parts on my medium size PCB. When I generated step model for it, the size of file was huge. I generally switch OFF 3D models for normal routing. I switch them ON only for verification purpose. This speeds up routing. Having copper and vias modeled in 3D will be great. Also, when I export Altium 3D model to step model, it removeds some details. The step conversion should also be improved.

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RWatkins   7/21/2011 4:37:28 PM
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3D model incorporation as part of circuit design and board layout is indeed quite valuable as our company can attest, especially when developing housings for portable battery powered devices where size and fit are critical design issues. There are several packages out there that have some degree of 3D capability in them, ranging from KiCAD (Linux freebie with limited capabilities and a somewhat clunky interface for part models) to the $100,000/seat "high-end" systems. We have only one major issue related to this with the system we are currently using, Altium, that the PCB library models are stored in flat-file fashion so that changing or adding 3D PCB parts models for a moderate sized library can result in a pretty extreme file size and long storage and retrieval times. This issue becomes more extreme the more complex the 3D models are, for example 120-position board stacking connectors like are available from Hirose. We have one case currently where we have a 4-board stack 65mm x 75mm each board, with two board-board spaces of 3mm and one board-board space of 2mm, and parts on both top and bottom of several of these boards. Without 3D modeling, the effort required would be daunting to avoid collisions between bottom layer parts on one board and top layer parts on the next board down. One feature that would be nice, if available, would be to also model the copper on and in the PWB as part of the 3D model, as this would help even further in EMC evaluations using modeling software like HFSS. This copper generation should be an option that is NOT default, because the complexity of the model generated will be extreme, resulting in large files and long processing times.

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MHK_#1   7/21/2011 3:23:33 AM
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This is useful in a very specific case, such as example with a structural component in a tight space application. From my experience, the most problem in PCB board design case is a lack of communication between a board designer and a logic designer. It would be a super-duper tool, if this tool can not only handle 3D components on PCB layout, but pull a logic design data from FPGA/ASIC chip library and a backplane file. Could this tool do that? Or already doing it?

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MN0   7/14/2011 11:08:27 AM
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Catia is about $US15K, although the academic version is only $US99.

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_hm   7/13/2011 2:41:08 PM
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It looks very interesting. Is it possible to have video tutorial with one typical application? What is approximate cost for this tool?

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