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6/12/2013 11:53 AM EDT
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resistion
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resistion   6/18/2013 12:44:58 AM
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It's pretty clear the benchmark is democratically useless. The conditions are not real world.

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alche   6/18/2013 12:57:09 AM
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Don't see how the argument is valid. If one drives a car with engine at redline, the MPG would not be anywhere near the advertized. Do you use laptop or cell running non-stop math and graphics? On the other hand, the relative performance is meaningful, unless you happen to be on the losing side, that is.

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resistion   6/18/2013 12:57:25 AM
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Sure but we know battery life even under normal conditions exceeds 3 hrs, such as in the laptop battery test, regardless of processor. http://blog.laptopmag.com/best-battery-life-longest-lasting-smart-phones

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resistion   6/18/2013 1:04:26 AM
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I'm not arguing the relative comparison which shows less power consumption at comparable performance by a processor. I'm arguing this is only a small portion of the battery life consideration. Other considerations like camera use may matter more to users, in the final purchase decision.

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jaybus0   6/18/2013 11:31:46 AM
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Android is Linux underneath and runs just as well on x86. I doubt if there are many software hiccups, and most aps would need a simple recompile. I would say most aps are developed on Linux workstations.

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jaybus0   6/18/2013 12:01:12 PM
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It is a different ISA and most instructions are treated as a single op down the pipeline. Intel does not need to be as deeply OoO. Also, OoO depth does not scale linearly. Its not a very good metric when comparing completely different ISAs. Also, the new Atom's decoders are significantly improved over old Atom.

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jaybus0   6/18/2013 6:43:25 PM
Maybe. Assuming mobile CPUs gain enough performance to replace say Core I7 (a tall order), there is still the i/o problem. In spite of the hype, there is more to replacing desktops than having a CPU with enough raw processing power. We need it to drive (multiple?) large screen monitors, external hard/SSD drives, keyboards, mice, Ethernet, etc., and with a single small cable and i/o controller that uses miniscule amounts of power. It will be a while. I see it another way that has nothing to do with desktop workstations. Smartphones are following the PC evolutionary path. With increased performance comes more capable aps, which in turn drives the need for more performance. Human wants and desires are boundless. Once the more capable aps are in use, there will be minimum system requirements, just like we saw as the PC evolved. There is no static "good enough" level. The software is what will drive up performance minimums. Nobody will want a device that isn't able to run the software du jour. Since software developers will certainly make use of any performance gains, a mobile processor performance war is inevitable. Intel is positioning well. If they can deliver the same performance with less power, then a "tock" release can increase clock speed and still stay within the power and thermal limitations. That puts the pressure on ARM to increase performance, else risk their chips not being able to run the latest software. Basically, this is what Intel did to AMD for years with desktop processors.

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Peter Clarke   6/20/2013 6:47:56 AM
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I will try and get in touch with Jim Mielke at ABI Research.

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Thanks for article
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FireBadTreePretty   7/16/2013 9:35:53 AM
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> But for the record This is not paid Intel marketing.

But is is a pretty poor journlistic article that has since been proven that it used false data to jump to massively incorrect conclusions.

>So, will all the sensationalistic bloggers retract their stories about Intel beating ARM? Likely not, but this definitely questions their credibility just as it does benchmarks.

Still waiting for the retraction on this article.

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ARM Beats Intel With Revised AnTuTu Benchmark

http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318894&

> Technical consulting firm BDTI pointed out that the compiled code for the Intel processor was not executing all instructions that were intended for the RAM test.

>To rectify the situation, AnTuTu issued revision 3.2.2 to the benchmark Wednesday evening. The revision still uses the ICC compiler, but the resulting scores are drastically different for the Intel processor. The AnTuTu CPU and overall scores dropped by approximately 20 percent, while the AnTuTu RAM score plummeted by approximately 50 percent

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