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8/12/2013 01:00 AM EDT
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pierre kil
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Re: Everyone's understanding of reality seems different
pierre kil   8/13/2013 7:45:30 AM
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IoT is not a hype anymore as the big difference is that the market seems to be ready: individual users are grasping the posibilities of an IoT to solve real problems they face. Yes technically it can already (theoretically) be done for decades. But as long as user doen't recognise value and haven't naturally familiarised with technology and the fundamental intuitive means to interact with other people and devices via internet, technology won't get adopted (the promise of Home Automation has been there for decades...). Today people understand.....

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Re: The needed bits
akhe   8/13/2013 2:56:35 AM
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The most important is not that it is our solution "that wins" the important thing is that we have a common way to work. Wo instead of building things vertical as almost everyone does today, at least we use firm specified interfaces at different levels that makes it possible to use whatever standard will "win" at the end when it emerge.

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Re: Everyone's understanding of reality seems different
Jayna Sheats   8/12/2013 10:12:30 PM
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Absolutely nothing but a name that seems to be accepted...   Seriously, Joel (who was my boss at about the time you mention) had been promulgating the MC2 concept for several years (that means >5) prior to the date you mentioned.  He also spoke of the Information Utility in many public speeches in the same era.  Now we have the Cloud and the IoT.  But no SaaS startup is going to claim that their service is available from the Information Utility.

There is, however, an important distinction between "ubiquitous" and "pervasive" (thanks again to Joel).  "Ubiquitous" means "found everywhere", while "pervasive" means "spread throughout", as in "television's pervasive influence on our culture" (MW dictionary).  A pervasive technology, as Joel conceived it, is not only commonplace but becomes almost invisible - we use it without even knowing it.  That is not true of the very ubiquitous cell phone.  He envisioned that MC2 would be a pervasive technology.

Whatever you call it, it needs M, C, and C.  The last of the three is pretty much there; the first is not (but emerging).  The middle C is there physically (with some questions about capacity in the long run), but the software for interfaces, the subject of Rick's article, is not. Without it, all the cheap sensors and powerful computers in the world won't make the vision happen.

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Re: Everyone's understanding of reality seems different
Tom Murphy   8/12/2013 9:54:14 PM
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JRS: I'm open minded on that, but I'd like to hear some specifics to understand why the IoT is something more than the same ol' same ol'.  The technorati (haven't heard that word recently) have been talking about smart appliances, wearable computers, and the connected community since circa 1997. What specifically does IoT add to that conversation beyond adjectives like "ubiquitous" and "pervasive"? 

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Re: Everyone's understanding of reality seems different
Jayna Sheats   8/12/2013 8:39:30 PM
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I agree that the name itself is arbitrary, but calling something "hype" just because it is a suddenly-popular buzzword isn't very useful.  People have to have buzzwords to quickly convey general themes in this ever-more-frenetic world, and of course they are inaccurate and simplistic.


I also agree that the IoT theme has been around a long time (Joel Birnbaum talked about MC2 - read "MC squared": measurement, communication, and computation.  But it is more than just the Internet, and indeed that is the question here: what does it take to get this new data (from unaccustomed sources) onto the Internet so it can reach interested users?

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Re: The needed bits
rick merritt   8/12/2013 7:44:41 PM
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@Akhe: Interesting proposal. Of course the 6WLowPAN guys say it is there stack.

In any case, there's no need to shoe horn Web standards into IoT, just a need to have their corollary, a consensus around some interopability framework...maybe yours.

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rick merritt   8/12/2013 7:44:39 PM
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@Akhe: Interesting proposal. Of course the 6WLowPAN guys say it is there stack.

In any case, there's no need to shoe horn Web standards into IoT, just a need to have their corollary, a consensus around some interopability framework...maybe yours.

rick merritt
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Re: Everyone's understanding of reality seems different
rick merritt   8/12/2013 7:39:33 PM
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@Y-Sasaki: What sticks in my craw is that we had finally got to the point where apps could all be written to open Web standards and along comes Apple's iBandwagon saying that if you want to run on the iPhone, forget Web apps, it has to be native iOS code.

Aaaarrggghhh!

rick merritt
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Re: DCIM
rick merritt   8/12/2013 7:36:56 PM
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@Doc D: Thx for the link, man!

docdivakar
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docdivakar   8/12/2013 6:05:59 PM
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There is a very closely related discusson on-going on a LinkedIn forum:

How important is the integrated support of various communication protocols (SNMP, Modbus BACnet etc) for a DCIM-solution?

http://linkd.in/1cuYvT9

MP Divakar

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