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9/10/2013 03:36 PM EDT
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Sanjib.A
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Re: Curious about Potential Packages
Sanjib.A   9/12/2013 10:56:31 PM
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Happy to hear that this tiny chip could give 486, Pentium kind of performance, that would be great!! Will this be somewhere close to the SoC launched by AMD recently: G-series SoC? Probably having lower performance and features than that?

The part that scares me is "...suggesting it is more of a rushed trial balloon than a nailed-down product and strategy.

I would dare not think about using it if there are no clear strategy and a clear road-map. Any tentative timeline announced for its release?

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Re: Curious about Potential Packages
Aeroengineer   9/12/2013 3:23:34 PM
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I will be very much interested to hear this.  Some of the Cortex M devices are reaching this level of performance.  If Intel comes down this far, and QFN/QFP packages are available, I could see this being a possible device that a hobbiest could use.  I will be very interested to see more about this device.

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Re: Lessons learned?
alex_m1   9/12/2013 1:02:30 PM
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Maybe they learned that on it's own, x86 core doesn't sell for this market, at least well enough to justify a chip production and the risks invoved.

This could be the reason behind buying wind river and mcaffee.

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Lessons learned?
rick merritt   9/12/2013 12:36:45 PM
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Intel had an initative to provide a syntesizeable Atom core at TSMC that quietly went away. I wonder what they learned that could be applied to this effort?

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Re: Curious about Potential Packages
rick merritt   9/12/2013 12:33:38 PM
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@Aero: Great questions!

Anyone have any answers for that yet?

I have heard varius speculations Intel is targeting 386, 486 or Pentium performance. We are all still wating for details from Intel.

Aeroengineer
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Curious about Potential Packages
Aeroengineer   9/12/2013 7:28:18 AM
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I am particularly curious to see what packaging options this device will come in.  I am wondering if this product is aimed at the Cortex M market, or the lower end of the Cortex A series?  If it is aimed at the M, say M4F with a higher clock speed, it would be interesting to see this type of device in a QFN and QFP.  If it is competing with the A series, I expect that this will only be available as a BGA.

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an answer in last year's IDF ?
HardwIntr   9/12/2013 4:18:37 AM
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5555/intel-at-isscc-12-more-research-into-near-threshold-voltage

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Re: Must be 32 bit
markhahn0   9/11/2013 11:41:12 PM
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I don't know anything, except that AMD64 introduced a lot more than just a bigger address space.  IA32 is really not a good/modern ISA, and it would be quite strange to see Intel falling back 10+ years.  one real register, stack-based x87, no vectorization, etc.  at the time, 64b extensions were justified as not adding a lot of chip complexity - of course that's relative to OoO/superscalar stuff.

rick merritt
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Re: Must be 32 bit
rick merritt   9/11/2013 5:45:16 PM
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@CharlieCL: What's your source on this?

rick merritt
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Re: Must be 32 bit
rick merritt   9/11/2013 5:44:33 PM
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@GSMD: Thanks for weighing in!

Question: Doesn't the x86 support the same hardware root of trust the Trusted Computing Group nspecified and ARM Trustzone implmewnts in its own way?

 

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