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10/21/2013 12:35 PM EDT
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geekmaster
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PC down because of Windows 8?
geekmaster   10/21/2013 2:41:59 PM
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PC's popularity is decelerating driven also by Windows 8. If we would have a more PC user friendly OS, we would not see such a decline in PC.

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Caleb Kraft   10/21/2013 3:36:00 PM
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This isn't too surprising. most people just don't need a full computer sitting around. When all you do is read email and a few web pages, an entire desktop just seems silly.

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Bert22306   10/21/2013 4:01:21 PM
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"When all you do is read email and a few web pages, an entire desktop just seems silly."



Who only does that? Even at home, I mean? Most people have a PC anyway, even if not brand new, that they can use when needed. What college kid, even high school kid, or adult, only does the most trivial sorts of e-mail and web browsing ONLY? I'm incredulous. Or do all of these kids drop out of school because they never turn in a paper or lab report?

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Yog-Sothoth   10/21/2013 4:14:31 PM
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Exactly... most people have a PC anyway. Mine is 5+ years old, still works fine (it does have dual Xeon CPUs), and I can see no need to buy a new one (I don't want to 'upgrade' to windows 8!)

Without the dramatic growth in performance/functionality that PCs had, there is less of a need to replace them, simple.

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rick merritt   10/21/2013 10:55:08 PM
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@Yog: Dual Xeon desktop. Holy workstation! I think you are set for awhile,

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Caleb Kraft   10/21/2013 4:19:09 PM
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I think the numbers speak for themselves here. A LOT of people use a PC only for what can be done online. While anecdotally you may not see many homes without a desktop, they're becoming far more common than you might think. Many that do have desktops are finding that they can often carry out their desired task on their mobile device quicker than it takes for the old beasts to boot up. 

The only reason there is a desktop in my home is because I wanted a beast for some hobby game development. (of course, there are 4 laptops and 2 tablets in my home as well). 

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Bert22306   10/21/2013 4:30:37 PM
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Actually, I don't think the numbers say what the trade press keeps insisting. The numbers are only saying that people bought a bunch of PCs in the past, and now they're having more fun buying new smartphones and tablets. It doesn't say that they are ditching their PCs.

The average joe appears to be amazingly un-analytical. Our own documents person was also enthusiastic about tablets and smartphones, to the point that she thought she'd never use a PC. But then I asked her some really basic questions, like okay, now do all your work on that tablet. Oh, yeah.

If tablets get more PC-like, perhaps PCs will fade away and be replaced by this new cross-over product. Every time one of these articles comes up, as they do periodically, the same points and counterpoints gate made.

But again, just looking at school-age and college-age kids, just how trivial would their education be, if all they ever needed while going to school was a iPad-like tablet? And all they ever did was e-mail and a little light web browsing? Or is it that schools are back to using typerwiters?

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Caleb Kraft   10/21/2013 4:35:14 PM
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it is an odd assumption to think that you can't do research or write a thesis paper on a tablet. though I do agree that many can't do all of their work on one, there are also many who can.  I actually can't think of a single part of my education that would have required more than a current tablet can offer. Then again, I never did any fancy simulations or anything, so I'm back to anecdotal stuff. 

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Bert22306   10/21/2013 4:46:00 PM
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Well, not that odd, Caleb. Just one simple example. How many references do you have to have available, while writing any sort of half way non-trivial paper? And what are all these references? Paper books you had to go to the library to check out?

How many tablets allow you to have a lot of open documents simultaneously available, either on a large screen or even on multiple screens?

And of the one tiny screen available on the average tablet, how much screen real estate do you have left, if a good chunk of it is taken up by a virtual keyboard?

I can't fathom what people do at their jobs, at school, or even at home when not just reading the online news perhaps, to be able to get by with just a tablet.

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Caleb Kraft   10/21/2013 4:52:55 PM
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I think maybe you would be blown away by how capable modern tablets are! Sounds like you haven't used one in some time. I happily type away using my bluetooth keyboard while listening to music in one app and swapping back and forth between multiple references while I write (as my job). 

The only real problem I have with it is that some javascript elements that make writing in a content management system easier don't quite handle the browser too well.  

Did I mention the screen is almost as big as my laptop? 

That being said, There are big shortfalls that I had hoped the surface2 would solve (and it may have, I haven't used it). Namely USB host and yes, to one of your points, multiple apps on the screen at once. 

I don't think this will even be a debatable thing in the near future though. Why draw the distinction between the desktop and the mobile? I'm more interested in the distinction drawn between the types of operating systems (full OS vs appliance).

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Frank Eory   10/21/2013 7:30:35 PM
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Although some consumers may truly be "ditching" the desktop PC, anecdotally it seems to me much more likely that they are simply keeping their existing desktop PC -- which works fine for them -- and are not motivated to upgrade to a newer model. To a lesser extent, I think the same is true for laptops. If your 4 year old laptop still meets your needs, how important is it to you to upgrade to the latest model? More important than joining the tablet revolution? Probably not.

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junko.yoshida   10/21/2013 11:25:08 PM
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Frank, I agree with you on your last assumption.

If your 4 year old laptop still meets your needs, how important is it to you to upgrade to the latest model? More important than joining the tablet revolution? Probably not.


Then, the question we need to ask ourselves is this: Four years from now, when we do need to upgrade our laptops, do we actually upgrade them, or by then, we may have something neither a laptop nor a present-day tablet and we'd just buy one of those?

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geekmaster   10/22/2013 11:51:23 AM
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I see two types of consumers: the one using tablet-like devices and the ones using mobile computers like laptops. It appears like the majority will use the tablet-like devices while the minority still uses laptops. So, why would anyone still need a laptop? Working in an engineering environment and travelling a lot I can not imagine work without a laptop. However, once connectivty, speed and security of data are improving worldwide, I can imagine that even engineers and managers will use tablet-like devices utilizing the cloud.

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robertthegreat   10/21/2013 5:20:47 PM
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I don't want to get this off track, but my son is in college and living at home, so I get to observe his needs.  It seems that college guys are now doing most of their class assignments, including research papers, using online applications.  This apparently is so that graders can readily utilize anti-plagiarism tools to check the papers for originality.  

Even math assignments are done online nowadays, which I believe is a terrible idea.  I've found that I remember everything I write, but only half of what I type.

In any event, even business majors will find a PC essential to graduation, as they will all be generating lots of those nasty spreadsheets long before they graduate.  Even if a guy can graduate from a university with only a tablet, there's simply no way he will make it in the "real" world without eventually needing a PC or at the very least a tablet PC.

Of course, anything can change, but the discussion here is about how much power is needed for real work.  My CEO only travels with a tablet these days, but he has people doing all the real work for him!  I need to get my myself promoted most definitely . . .

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Growing market - tablets for kids
rravi0   10/21/2013 7:55:45 PM
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My daughter, who is almost 8 now, has had an iPad for a year. She loves it. A few years back, in the PC era, a 7 year old kid did not have their own computer or laptop - she would have used the home computer. This is a completely new market and only tablets serve this market. For a kid,I don't think I could give a laptop as a present now - they would not take it. This is one market that PCs just do not work now.

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It is noting beyond expectation
Kinnar   10/22/2013 3:22:09 AM
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There is nothing beyond expectations, these results were expected as now for those tablet is sufficient for carrying out their work, will not be opting large format laptops especially businessmen and persons falls in this category. From the results it can be seen that the fall in the PC sale is not as compared to the rise in tablets, that means new market has got emerged for tablets.

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Will phablets be "small tablets"?
junko.yoshida   10/22/2013 11:02:35 AM
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If you throw "phablets" in the mix for this market data, I wonder if that will change anything...

See Nokia's new phablet story here: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1319860&

My question is if "phablet" will be categorized as "small tablets" by Gartner.

Gartner, in this story, said "small tablets hold the best prospects for both revenue growth and profits in mobile systems."

 

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Re: Will phablets be "small tablets"?
AZskibum   10/22/2013 11:55:23 AM
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I still don't really "get" the phablet. The lower price compared to a full-size tablet certainly has it's appeal, but with it one must accept the compromize of the smaller screen. Is it truly more mobile, considering it doesn't really fit in a pants pocket? More than a phone, but not quite up to fulfilling one's daily computing needs in the same way as a full size tablet.

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junko.yoshida   10/22/2013 12:01:20 PM
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I know, I didn't *get* phablets either --- until I went to China where I saw many executives carrying those in their briefcase (not in their pants' pocket). 

In their briefcase, they had a laptop and phablet. In their pants' pocket they had a smartphone. You may ask why he would need to carry a phablet if he already has a laptop. The point is that it's lighter than a tablet and it's actually much better to browse the web than smartphones. (And who wants to open up his laptop in a restaurant?)

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LarryM99   10/22/2013 7:24:16 PM
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I can almost follow that rationale, except that I have been quite comfortable carrying around and using my full-sized tablet (even in restaurants). Then again, I do not have a Corporate expense account to pay for that stuff. Beyond cost, I am unwilling to maintain yet another device, besides my smart phone and tablet. It seems like a small space in between them.

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junko.yoshida   10/23/2013 3:03:26 AM
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I hear what you are saying. Hence, unless you are one of those rare people who have neither smartphone nor tablet, "phablets" won't make sense. And I suspect that many in the US market certainly already have smartphones -- at least that's te assumption.

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wilber_xbox   10/25/2013 12:35:42 PM
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I think Phablet vs Tablet vs smartphone vs feature phone discussion will not have any closing as everyone has his/her own viewpoint about usability. I personally find smartphone useful especially due to internet and its associated usage. Phablet is somewhat difficult to digest for me mainly due to large size but i might like it or find it better than smartphone once i buy one for myself.

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PC are still the workhorses
prabhakar_deosthali   10/22/2013 12:42:21 PM
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In my opinion, the PCs and laptops are still the workhorses for the people who need to do the real computing. And this will remain so until cloud based computing using large screen tablets becomes a norm.

For the people who were using PCs/Laptops just to handle their emails and browse the attachments sent by their subordinates the trasnition to tablets/phablets/smart phones is a natural one and sinec this is larger portion of all internet-literate people , we are seeing a dramtic jumps in the sales of these devices.

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wilber_xbox   10/25/2013 12:38:22 PM
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I agree that PC has own space today and the down shares of PC is due to those who are moving to Tablet as they need electronics for entertainment or personal use and not for productivity. I think the major problem will start once more computing will move to clouds with improved connectivity.

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