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10/28/2013 07:45 AM EDT
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AZskibum
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Someone is going to have a field day
AZskibum   10/28/2013 11:53:36 AM
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So now the standard technique of identifying a bot from a human for purposes of account creation has been defeated, and lots of people -- mostly not with good intent -- are going to have a field day with this.

While it is fascinating to see the Turing Test passed by this particular AI, I have to wonder why this particular application of that AI was chosen.

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R_Colin_Johnson   10/28/2013 12:45:29 PM
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The authors told me that they chose Captcha because is was designed to be hard for bots and easy for humans, thus proving that their algorithm works like a human brain. 

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LarryM99   10/28/2013 1:13:54 PM
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My first reaction to this was "where can I get one?", precisely because I have never been very good at doing Captchas. Does that mean that they are more human than I am? Maybe it does - for all anyone reading this knows I am just a software algorithm running for the benefit of my namesake.

Naah, my software would write better than I would... :-)

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toddrmcallister   10/28/2013 1:14:06 PM
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Complex pattern processing is a task the human brain is quite good at but has long eluded our silicon friends. Facial recognition is the oft cited example of this. I suggest the captcha test is a ubiquitous and familiar example of complex pattern recognition that their algorithms could solve with significant success. I doubt that the purpose of developing this technology and choosing captcha was to sell the technology to spammers.

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R_Colin_Johnson   10/28/2013 1:23:44 PM
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@LarryM99 I have never been very good at doing Captchas

I know what you mean--I am definitely at less than the 90 percent  solution rate of Vicarious' algorithm, especially when the adjacent characters are overlapping, like in many of the examples in the video.

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Kinnar   10/28/2013 1:54:46 PM
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So now its time to do research on Captchas, as this algorithm(AI) is doing better than human brain. Yes there are many other ways and programmers will start implementing those new ideas. This is the way the world become complex rather than being simpler!!!

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LarryM99   10/28/2013 1:59:46 PM
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...so maybe the answer will be to reverse the test. If it gets the answer right, it must not be a human!

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Etmax   10/29/2013 8:52:33 AM
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Or one of the many aspects of the brain, I personally hope (probably to no avail) that they never solve the brain properly, I think it will be soemthing 99% of us will regret.

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The Forbin Project
Etmax   10/29/2013 8:55:36 AM
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There was a poorly acted and directed movie in the 70's called "The Forbin Project", I think everyone should watch it to understand what we are getting ourselves into. :-)

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Did you go to their contact page?
p456   10/29/2013 12:39:07 PM
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If you go to their website and click on the contact link you'll see that they're using captcha to make sure your human and not a netbot. Irony much?

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