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11/20/2013 08:15 PM EST
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Bert22306
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Re: Rabble rouser
Bert22306   11/21/2013 8:25:57 PM
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Lighten up there, Antony. That was meant to tease her, as Frank seemed to have grasped immediately.

In common usage, "rabble rouser" means trouble maker, in a light-hearted way. At least, it does in the US.

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Antony Anderson   11/21/2013 8:19:17 PM
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@Bert22306 You write:

"Junko, you're SUCH a rabble rouser, asking about the Oklahoma case I mean."

The Collins American English Dictionary defines a rabble rouser as:

"a person who tries to arouse people to anger, hatred, or violent action by appeals to emotions, prejudices, etc.; demagogue"

I fail to see how asking important questions of a conference speaker in a timely and courteous manner, as Junko clearly did, fits the above definition of rabble rouser. Or am I missing something?

 

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daleste   11/21/2013 7:50:48 PM
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That is strange that there would not be a sentiment to fix the problem.  When I was working in automotive, we always had to perform an FMEA on our chip to help the automotive company to design in a fail safe or limp home mode for any failures that could occur in the system.  I hope Toyota is doing this internally if they are not bringing it up in conferences.

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junko.yoshida   11/21/2013 7:06:14 AM
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@daleste, in all honesty, in a conference like this in Japan (where a lot of embedded systems engineers including automotive guys attend), I had expected a topic like "fail safe conditions" as you mentioned would rise to the top, or at least to be discussed. But it hasn't so far.

It's almost eerly no other speakers want to discuss --  at keast publicly -- Oklahoma case in Japan.  

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Re: fatalities versus demographics
junko.yoshida   11/21/2013 7:00:59 AM
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@from-Tokyo, you are absolutely right.

At a time when Japan's population of senior citizens are growing so rapidly (all the while Japan's overall population is decreasing) , we should definitely take that into consideration.

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junko.yoshida   11/21/2013 6:56:39 AM
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Oh, come on! I am paid to ask questions about stuff people don't want to answer.

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junko.yoshida   11/21/2013 6:55:32 AM
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Bert, I agree with you -- not about the rabble rouser bit, but about what Kuroyanagi-san said about autnomous car. He was rather candid, and straightforward. (That, of course, prompted me to check the boundry and pop the question!)

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fatalities versus demographics
from_Tokyo   11/21/2013 12:07:03 AM
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The article mentions changes in fatalities per age category. Don't forget that during the same period Japan's demographics changed substantially. From a statistics point of view would it maybe be more relevant to look at "fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants" per age category (although every fatality is one too many).

daleste
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daleste   11/20/2013 9:25:08 PM
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I'm sure it is a topic that he doesn't want to discuss and his lawyers probably told him not to.  As engineers, we have to build systems that have safe guards and fail safe conditions that will avoid issues that Toyota has seen.

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AZskibum   11/20/2013 9:11:29 PM
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Rabble rouser indeed!

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