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_hm
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Kids, Pets and senior citizen
_hm   1/21/2014 7:46:48 PM
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Senior citizen, kids and pets generally may not have transopnder. And they are the weakest link. Needs better solution.

 

daleste
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Jaywalking
daleste   1/21/2014 11:05:21 PM
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The picture shown is an obvious jaywalking situation.  The pedestrians are at fault.  Of course, if we can increase safety by adding functionality to the vehicles, we can save these law breaking pedestrians.  It's a good idea, but the pedestrians should pay for the upgrade instead of the driver.

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Re: Kids, Pets and senior citizen
Susan Rambo   1/21/2014 11:54:42 PM
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Yes, the story on EE Times Europe says "To detect an approaching pedestrian, the driver needs to be warned or the emergency brake has to be triggered even before the pedestrian steps onto the roadway. At the same time, the likelihood of an unnecessary full braking must be kept extremely low to allow car drivers to find the system reliable enough to use it."  A good test would be tagging deer with transponders and seeing if the system is fast enough to brake the car before a deer collides with it, without causing problems for the car and other cars around it. The only thing -- isn't it better defensive driving to just hit the deer than try to brake at the last second? (Not an option with pedestrians, but they hopefully aren't moving as fast as a deer might be.) The system is probably completely useless when the car goes beyond a certain speed.

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Re: Jaywalking
blommep   1/22/2014 5:40:52 AM
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As both the side lines and middle line are white, this points to the picture corresponding to another country than the USA.

For example in France, it's only jaywalking if the pedestrians cross within less than 50m of a marked crossing; if not, the drivers have to yield to the pedestrians...

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Re: Kids, Pets and senior citizen
zeeglen   1/22/2014 10:32:24 AM
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This idea reeks of yet another marketeering case of "I smell dollars".

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chanj0   1/22/2014 1:58:30 PM
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The concept seems to be simply. Yet, to detect predestian ahead and apply the brake properly is a challenging problem. Among all, like _hm said, when if someone doesn't have a transponder. On the other hands, if brake is applied to avoid hitting a predestian and yet causing a collision to the rear-end of the car, who's fault.

To me, jaywalker or not is another issue. I will definitely feel bad of hitting a person even though it is his/ her fault. The idea is great; yet, it requires more study, a lot of alpha tests and beta tests.

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Re: Jaywalking
betajet   1/22/2014 3:53:14 PM
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My experience with Germany -- albeit from decades ago -- is that everyone is law-abiding and there would be no jaywalking.  Indeed, babylon.com translates "jaywalking" as unachtsamer Fußgang (careless walking), as something done by the heedless Hans Guck-in-die-Luft (Johnny Head-in-Air) from Der Struwwelpeter.

Italians are competely different, as described brilliantly by Jackson Burgess in Sex and the Italian Driver:
It is gauche to be a pedestrian in Italy. It is in bad taste: a pedestrian is a Person of No Consequence -- The Italian pedestrian feels ashamed and does everything he can do to avoid acting like a pedestrian. To cross the street on the crosswalk, for instance, would be to admit he is a pedestrian. To cross the street, he crosses in the middle of the block, strolling slowly through the traffic. He is trying to make it clear that he is not a pedestrian at all, but a driver who has momentarily alighted from his car. If you treat him like a pedestrian, thus drawing attention to his shame, he will be furious...


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Re: Kids, Pets and senior citizen
_hm   1/22/2014 7:39:31 PM
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I love deers and and all other animals. I will not harm them in any way.

 

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Re: Jaywalking
daleste   1/22/2014 8:02:17 PM
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betajet, I enjoyed your quotes.  I guess it would be hard to get the Italian pedestrian to carry the transponder...

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Tunrayo   1/23/2014 9:09:17 AM
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I think the product is designed to attract car manufacturers so that they can add the feature to their cars in the future. I don't think anyone would be rushing to upgrade - pedestrians or drivers.

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