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Do Linear's Dust Networks Matter in IoT?

6LowPAN to include Time Slotted Channel Hopping
5/5/2014 01:33 PM EDT
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krisi
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Re: range (Re: licensing)
krisi   5/7/2014 11:41:19 AM
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Kirs, what happens with 1km range installation when line of site gets blocked?

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Re: Zigbee vs 6LoWPAN
krisi   5/7/2014 11:39:45 AM
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thank you Kris for explaining the sunchronization issue...Kris

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Re: Zigbee vs 6LoWPAN
Kris Pister   5/7/2014 11:36:39 AM
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To date, Zigbee has not time synchronized their networks.  Battery operated end nodes wake up whenever they like to send a message.  A router node needs to leave its radio receiver on all of the time because it never knows when that message will arrive.  Typical receivers burn around 20mA (Dust's is about 5mA).

You need a really big battery to pull 20mA for a decade.

If you're time synchronized, then the routing node knows exactly when to wake up to receive an incoming packet.  It can wake up ten times per second and still run at under 1% duty cycle, meaning that your average current consumption is in the tens of microAmps, not mA.  That lets you run the entire network, even the routers, on inexpensive lithium batteries for a decade or more.

We've been working in the IETF and IEEE on the standards that will enable Zigbee to adopt this kind of low power networking for IP.

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Kris Pister   5/7/2014 11:27:44 AM
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Range depends on antenna type and elevation.  With simple antennas you can get more than a kilometer per hop if you have line of sight and are a couple of meters off of the ground.  If you bury them in the ground (e.g. for parking monitoring), then you're lucky to get 10 meters.  "Average" deployments in buildings and industrial environments get many tens to hundreds of meters per hop.

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Kris Pister   5/7/2014 11:24:10 AM
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No license required, and very simple.  Buy an IP network, deploy it, look at your data live on the internet via browser, cell phone, data analytics software, whatever.

(Or read the IEEE and IETF standards and build your own implementation, no license required)

Integration is easy - analog or serial inputs go straight to cloud databases.

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Re: Zigbee vs 6LoWPAN
krisi   5/7/2014 11:08:27 AM
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What is so special about ZigBee repeaters that requires to have them batteries? Data in, data out, nothing else to do...Kris

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Zigbee vs 6LoWPAN
rick merritt   5/7/2014 10:58:57 AM
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I did not realize that for large installations Zigbee requires repeaters that cannot be pratically run on batteries. Is this true Zigbee-ites?

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Jonas Berge   5/6/2014 5:47:44 AM
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In my personal oppinion a "thing" doesn't have to have an IP address to be part of the IoT. RFID is also IoT  - its origin. See Wikipedia. What they do need is a unique identifier. The sensor needs some kind of secure connection through the Internet so it can be accessed remotely. So you can have sensors on Dust in your friedge at home, or WirelessHART in your plant, or on CAN bus in your car, with a connection to a box that has an IP address and is connected to the Internet. This way these sensors can be accessed from anywhere in the world. Preferably through a VPN connection - so you get an IntRAnet of Things. At least in plants this is already happening today. Control valves on offshore platorms are being diagnosed for failures by experts sitting in a cosy office onshore.

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boblespam   5/6/2014 2:23:13 AM
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Apparently you need to buy a license to build-up a Dust network, and also a WirelessHart certification. It looks complicated.

Do we have an idea of the max distance beetween two nodes ?

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krisi   5/5/2014 9:02:58 PM
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You just tell the fridge to re-order the right beer...and have no TV privelages for a week...and threaten to replace with more reliable model if it continues to mis-behave!

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