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E.U.'s Human Brain Project ramps up
9/30/2014 04:10 PM EDT
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krisi
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krisi   10/1/2014 5:33:29 PM
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As far as I can tell engineers in Israel work 24/7 but they join their work with privite lives so it is all one! ;-)...I have conf calls with Israel with dogs barking, babies crying...I even had one where the guy was at the wedding reception and stepped out to do the call...the reduction of working hours was predicted 50-years ago but never happened

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alex_m1   10/1/2014 5:04:53 PM
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Krisi, you're right. Work hours aren't divided equally. And i just gave netherlands as an example(i'm from israel ,and we work a lot here too). But in totality still we come ahead of pre-industrial people i believe.

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krisi   10/1/2014 4:12:15 PM
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Not sure where you live @alex_m1...most of my professional contacts in Canada work 50+ hours...in fact anyone working 35 will quickly get fired

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R_Colin_Johnson   10/1/2014 1:51:03 PM
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You are right. The work hours-per-week could go down--and that's alright with me. (My neighbor goes to work at 6am-9am to get his crew of Ph.Ds set up for the tasks of the day, then comes back home until his 3pm-to-6pm end-of-day meetings to see how everybody did. On that model, I believe it will be easy to work well with underlings that are "smarter" than you. For instance, I many businesses work just fine with M.B.A. managers who are not as smart as their Ph.D. workers.

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alex_m1   10/1/2014 6:01:42 AM
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@colin,

There's a big difference between the industrial revolution and today. Today, if you squint hard enough(and wait long enough) you see technologies targeting every capability we humans have. Once they're better than us in every way , what would we do? For an historical example, after the industrial revolution ,sadly, alot of horses went to the glue factory.

Another point: if you count work day before the industrial revolution and today, you'll notice that today a large percentage of the population is either retired, or in school/uni, or in some free day, or unemployed. And in some countries in europe they even have a 35 hours in a work week. So it comes down that we as a population work less than before the industrial revolution - as we should. 





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alex_m1   10/1/2014 5:50:07 AM
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@Duane,

This stuff is nice, but would you be willing to do a somewhat risky brain srugery for that , instead of settling for the future versions of google glass ?

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LarryM99   9/30/2014 11:52:02 PM
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I would very much like to understand that, but I also wonder if our reaction might be "Is that all there is to it?". We like to think that we are so mysterious, but the reality might be that we are just a mess of chemical and electrical reactions. If that is true then religion might just go out the window. On the other hand, the need to fight wars in the name of it might go out as well.

I'm going to quit this line of discussion right now. The last time I said something like that people got upset.

Larry M.

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AZskibum   9/30/2014 11:44:23 PM
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It's not difficult to imagine cognitive functions being simulatable, as well as of course the autonomic functions. But where things will get really interesting is in the realm of emotions, creativity and artistic expression. Then we may truly begin to understand how our biochemical CPUs function.

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R_Colin_Johnson   9/30/2014 7:28:13 PM
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Now you are getting into "wetware" interfaces which is not on the E.U.'s agenda. However, once we understand the brain better--especially how to cure its diseases--which IS on of the Human Brain Project goals, I can see that the type of wetware interfaces of which you speak could become easier to make. After all we all could use some extra brain functions!

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LarryM99   9/30/2014 6:52:56 PM
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Your mention of the Industrial Revolution is very appropriate. I am more concerned / excited about the rate of change of the rate of change rather than just the rate of change of advancement. The Industrial Revolution was probably the last time that progress accelerated as sharply as it could here. Human beings adjusted in that case, so we probably will in this one, but there will be a sharp dislocation. I predict that the Luddites will have a resurgence, at least for a while.

Larry M.

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