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TSMC Overtakes Samsung in FinFET

Despite rivalry, both lag behind Intel
10/6/2014 06:40 PM EDT
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escher
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escher   10/8/2014 11:23:37 PM
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Is going to be adopted by Apple it apears from this report.

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Re: Great report!
Gondalf   10/8/2014 5:44:28 PM
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Altera !! so it's leaving Intel :).

Interesting thing, likely Intel process is too expensive being too fine the metallization for an FPGA. or maybe it's like second source for cheaper devices.

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Re: Great report!
rick merritt   10/7/2014 11:29:28 PM
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@Zachariah: 1%!  OK, but let's measure them again in 18 months when more of its customers get product out the door.

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tangey   10/7/2014 4:55:58 AM
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"I too heard from an analyst that Samsung told him its 20nm process is just for internal use."

 

Did Samsung have any significant App Pro customers other than Apple. If not, given that Apple has not went with them this year, isn't "just for internal use" a result of losing the Apple contract more than any strategic decision ?

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Zachariah   10/6/2014 9:51:23 PM
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Thanks, Rick. At this point, Intel has about 1 percent of the foundry business. It is reasonable to discount it as a serious foundry player at present. Intel would have a lot of competitive issues as a competitor and supplier to any big foundry customers.

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Re: Samsung 20nm process
Zachariah   10/6/2014 9:48:24 PM
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That's right, Rick.

rick merritt
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Re: Samsung 20nm process
rick merritt   10/6/2014 9:45:57 PM
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Oh, and BTW my understanding is all the 16/14nm FinFET processes are basically FinFET structures grafted on to a baseline 20nm process. Is that right?

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rick merritt   10/6/2014 9:44:12 PM
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@sranje: It is true 20nm is a planar process, and I suspect Alan knows that. The focus of the story is on the 16/14nm FinFET processes.

I too heard from an analyst that Samsung told him its 20nm process is just for internal use. I believe Samsung annoucned a version of its Exynos application processor made in it. This too seems somewhat orthoginal to the main point of the story -- the 16/14nm FinFET competition-- but details duely noted!

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Samsung 20nm process
sranje   10/6/2014 9:04:55 PM
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The article apparently mixes planar and FinFET processes.

My understanding is that:

  -- Samsung's 20nm is a planar process - not a FF process

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  -- that it is Samsung internal process for their own processors and that it is not a Foundry process (i.e., offered externally)

Perhaps this requires clarification and possibly correction. Many thanks

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Great report!
rick merritt   10/6/2014 7:13:08 PM
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Welcome back to EE Times, Alan Patterson!

It's also great to see real competition in the foundry business.

One note: Intel now says it has multiple foundry customers in production with chips made in its 22nm FinFET process and is ramping more customers for its 22 and 14nm processes.

 

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