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China Owes Us, Qualcomm Says

OEMs failed to report 100M+ in sales, it claims
11/5/2014 06:14 PM EST
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krisi
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krisi   11/9/2014 5:17:57 PM
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I think China will get Qualcomm out of that market there...royalty stream is just too high...Q has no choice, out or reduce royalties ...the former is probably better

Yaojian
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Re: Might makes right.
Yaojian   11/8/2014 9:23:08 PM
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I think USPTO's intension to prevent company from abusing patents to block technology development since over 99% of patents are only ideas without any practice.  You can put huge numbers of ideas to patents, but you could not evaluate big numbers of ideas. Only practics create real products and move technology ahead.

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Re: Might makes right.
lakehermit   11/8/2014 8:25:35 PM
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"As long as it's cheaper for a large organization to fight a long drawn out legal battle than pay royalties, the law of economics rules that the way to go."

Wait until the new Congress passes their latest so called "Patent Reform." The new bills likely will cost a patent holder like Qualcom a fortune and take years to sue an infringer, particularly if it is an offshore manufacturer. The last round of reforms which put the America Invents Act and its Inter Partes Review (IPR) Trials in place was bad enough for patent holders. Now a patent owner may have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars when the infringer brings an IPR Trial, and that is before the patent holder ever has a chance to file an infringement claim. Even worse, the IPR is viewed by many patent attorneys as a patent killer. One recent study shows 79% of patent claims involved in an IPR being invalidated (http://www.senniger.com/article-details.aspx?article=3688&articlegroup=667). One has to wonder how the Patent Office manages to kill so many of the same patents that it issues. Are they truly bad patents or is the new IPR group just hostile to the work of their brethren?

 

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Gondalf   11/8/2014 3:41:01 PM
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Yes and in my knowledge Intel can shift the production on 32nm right now because officially is two node behind 14nm.....interesting solution to build cheap SOCs for industry automation and other devices even with integrated analog circuitry (this Intel node has a complex analog library if i remember correctly).  

rick merritt
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Qualcomm overcharging for IP?
rick merritt   11/8/2014 1:09:22 AM
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I know back in the CDMA days of 2G people were pretty miffed about how much Q'com demanded in royalties. How is it today for 3G/LTE royalties?

rick merritt
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Re: Typo?
rick merritt   11/7/2014 10:38:12 AM
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@tpfj: Good point. It should say intellectual property. Fixed.

tpfj
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Typo?
tpfj   11/7/2014 9:52:42 AM
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Rick, not sure this paragraph makes sense.

 

Qualcomm believes 1.3 billion handsets were sold with its chips this year and 1.5 billion will be sold next year. But handset makers are on track only to report sales of 1.04 to 1.13 billion devices this year, leaving a gap of 170 to 260 million devices unreported, the company claims.

 

I think you meant IP not chips? QC should absolutely know how many it has sold itself (you'd hope!).

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cookiejar   11/7/2014 8:19:15 AM
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In the business world, might makes right.  Remember Armstrong, who invented FM radio and patented his invention.  The top name manufacturers went into production and never paid him royalties.  Armstrong sued, but the decades long court battle drained his funds and he committed suicide in the end. 

As long as it's cheaper for a large organization to fight a long drawn out legal battle than pay royalties, the law of economics rules that the way to go.  If you add a government who can change rules at will, it becomes a no brainer.

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not too bad
Neo10   11/7/2014 1:38:01 AM
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Qualcomm should be happy that they are under reporting by only 25%. Of course it could be much higher but it can't get any better in China where goct is the big brother. Intel threw some small change in china to keep the researches well paid and keep working on x86..

rick merritt
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rick merritt   11/6/2014 8:46:24 PM
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It looks like Intel and Qualcomm have opposing strategies in China.

Long before its $B investment in Spreadtrum, Intel plunked down big bucks for a fab in China, too.

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