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5/7/2015 02:00 PM EDT
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betajet
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Re: Verbing nouns
betajet   5/28/2015 8:14:11 PM
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David wrote: One thing my father drummed into me: whenever someone uses the verb (?) "utilize" instead of "use" you can be sure he is talking BS :-)

Similarly, my mother the English teacher can't stand split infinitives, and stops listening to anyone who commits that grievous sin.

So what shall we make of the phrase "In order to fully utilize..." which appears in a recently-posted EE Times 'blog?

(In case you're wondering... no, Mom didn't watch Star Trek with me :-)

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Re: What about support?
R_Colin_Johnson   5/18/2015 11:21:52 AM
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Glad to hear Verilog and Verilator are making your job easier. There are lots of andantages for FGPAs if you can afford them and configure them easily. TI is going after engineers who dont' like the tools with which you are confortable. Thanks for the comment.

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Rodney.Sinclair   5/18/2015 10:55:00 AM
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I prefer Verilog over VHDL -- half the typing for the same effect.  Also, Verilator, a synthesizable Verilog simulator, is significantly faster than the commercial products I've used and is also free.  Icarus Verilog, another free Verilog simulator, is useful for scripted, short tests and it's easier to write the supporting test benches.

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R_Colin_Johnson   5/18/2015 10:42:23 AM
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Your seem to have no trouble progamming your FPGA's. Do you just write VHDL directly? If you have the cash (TI claims to be about half the price of an equivalent FPGA) and you can write VHDL comfortaby then stick with FPGA's. Both Xilinx and Altera as well as several strartups have the impression that programming in C++ is easiler, and are trying to come up with tools that simplify programming in VHDL (but I hear that most very many engineers are using them). In that case, it comes down to money (if you don't believe TI's claim of lower power) so by all means, stick with FPGAs. IAC TI's single part would not obsolete all FPGAs, but only ones used forf security and other specialities that fit into their programmable hardware accellerator reperotoire (which they claim will expand to encompass more application areas). Thanks for the comment, its good to hear from those designers which are comfortable with VHDL.

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R_Colin_Johnson   5/18/2015 10:42:16 AM
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Your seem to have no trouble progamming your FPGA's. Do you just write VHDL directly? If you have the cash (TI claims to be about half the price of an equivalent FPGA) and you can write VHDL comfortaby then stick with FPGA's. Both Xilinx and Altera as well as several strartups have the impression that programming in C++ is easiler, and are trying to come up with tools that simplify programming in VHDL (but I hear that most engineers are not using them). In that case, it comes down to money (if you don't believe TI's claim of lower power) so by all means, stick with FPGAs. IAC TI's single part would not obsolete all FPGAs, but only ones used for security and other specialities that fit into their programmable hardware accellerator repertoire (which they claim will expand to encompass more application areas). Thanks for the comment, its good to hear from those designers which are comfortable with VHDL.

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What about support?
Rodney.Sinclair   5/18/2015 9:51:52 AM
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About 2 1/2 years ago I did a trade study between some of the slick ARM+Video ASSPs and Xilinx' Zynq.  The ASSPs that could do what were required by the project were all high-end products for which either (1) documentation was not readily available or (2) support was only available for $1M+ customers.  The ASSP I/Os were also in general not suited to the cameras in the system and would have required an FPGA to convert video protocols (plus $10,000 IP cost).

About 1 1/2 years ago I did another trade study between GPUs and FPGAs.  The power consumption for the computational part of the system was about 3 times higher for a GPU than an FPGA.  The memory architecture was also simpler for the FPGA, which also reduced the power required by the system.

The Zynq won in both cases.

TI's claims appear to be severely overstated.

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sixscrews   5/17/2015 10:51:48 PM
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Glad to know you are of utilizing electronicist.

Verbing will becoming the master speaking of worldist.

Only timing takes.

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David Ashton   5/16/2015 8:20:16 PM
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@Sixscrews....nice... :-)) I'd say you're just the man to run this seminar!

I will confess to using "Electronic" as a verb (electronicking) which is what I used to spend a large percentage of my free time during schooldays doing. but that's really from an adjective - unless you derive it from "electronics"?

One thing my father drummed into me: whenever someone uses the verb (?) "utilize" instead of "use" you can be sure he is talking BS :-)

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Ah, Linguistics!
Stargzer   5/14/2015 5:30:11 PM
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From my favorite Language site (It took me a while to find it, but I knew the Good Doctor Goodword must have covered it):

Does Verbing weird things?

(EGAD! I don't remember making that comment seven years ago!  Where did MY memory go, Max?)



See also:

Intonation

 

 

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Re: Verbing nouns
sixscrews   5/14/2015 1:20:08 PM
Impacted - only two things are impacted: teeth and stools.  End of story.

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