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Intel to Buy Altera for $16.7B

6/1/2015 10:00 AM EDT
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TonyTib
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Re: Do you rememember when Altera bought Intel?
TonyTib   6/2/2015 1:26:28 PM
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Intel was a memory company first.  Highlights include:

-- they were either the first or one of the first DRAM companies

-- an early microcontroller maker (8051, 8031, etc)

-- definitely made EPROM

-- bubble memory

-- one of the first DSPs (not commerically successful)

and probably more.

I'll need to take a quick look through my 1986 Intel handbook to see what fun stuff is there.

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Re: Do you rememember when Altera bought Intel?
betajet   6/2/2015 1:25:15 PM
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I used Intel EPLDs back around 1991 or 92.  I had assumed Intel was second-sourcing Altera parts.  So it was the other way around?  That's interesting.

So what happened with FLEXlogic?  Did it get anywhere or evolve into something else?

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Do you rememember when Altera bought Intel?
Max The Magnificent   6/2/2015 12:48:44 PM
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With all the talk about Intel buying Altera, it's easy to forget that Altera once bought part of Intel.

Many folks tend to think of Intel only in the context of x86 processors, but way-back-when, they also created memory devices and they even had a line of iPLD programmable logic devices, including PLDs, EPLDs, and even FPGAs (like the iFX730 FLEXlogic FPGA With SRAM Option).

In 1994, Altera increased its market share to 20 percent by purchasing Intel's PLD business for ~$50 million in stock and cash.

Max The Magnificent
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Re: FPGA-customized Server Chips?
Max The Magnificent   6/2/2015 9:44:27 AM
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@garydpdx: This is not a new concept, a few startups have been selling FPGA-like IP blocks to SoC companies - one coming out of UCLA, another is Menta from France who will be showing at DAC next week.

It's true that it's not a new concept -- but Intel has some very cool packaging technology that would make linking CPU and FPGA die in the same package very interesting -- also the fact that both comnponents have already been proved for the same fab/process helps.

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FPGA-customized Server Chips?
garydpdx   6/1/2015 9:46:53 PM
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I recently read of Facebook and another big server user (Amazon?) ordering their own customized Xeon chips, obviously in large volumes to make that effort worthwhile for Intel.  Having guaranteed access to a programmable fabric could open a degree of customization to Intel's customers whose volumes leave them to buying off the shelf despite having advanced needs.

 

This is not a new concept, a few startups have been selling FPGA-like IP blocks to SoC companies - one coming out of UCLA, another is Menta from France who will be showing at DAC next week.

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Great news... for Xilinx, and Altera key personnel
betajet   6/1/2015 12:35:28 PM
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Maybe observing the results of M&As over the years has turned me into a grumbly old fussbudget, but IMO this isn't going to go well for Altera FPGAs.  Intel has a long history of acquiring technologies and letting them wither away.  Since Xilinx and Altera basically sell the same functionality, I would think anyone choosing between them will consider this history and go with Brand X rather than risking Brand A.

Also, when M&As occur there are usually large bonuses for key personnel to keep them around for a while.  Once that servitude completes, there's little reason to stick around.  Après ça, le déluge.

JMGO (Just My Grumbly Opinion) / YMMV

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Fourth Killing Point
DougInRB   6/1/2015 11:40:50 AM
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Since floor space is at a premium, 1U servers and other high density form factors are becoming more prevalent.  That leaves PCIe slots at a premium.  The remaining one or two that actually have escapes out the back will be needed for I/O, not for a board with an accelerator chip.

Putting an FPGA on the same package as the CPU solves this problem as well as the problem of PCIe latency between CPU and FPGA.

 

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Intel for Altera
Scudrunner   6/1/2015 11:33:18 AM
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Just to play devil's advocate; I heard a rumour that Altera wanted to switch Fabs back to TSMC for 10nm and Intel couldn't bear the humiliation?

Additionally, I don't think Intel's record post acquisition is very strong; McAfee? WindRiver? Infineon Wireless etc?

Plus it is very much "in vogue" to buy growth in large semi co's these days! (NXP, Avago, Cypress...)

Intel used to have enough cash to buy this, now it's going to have to resort to debt.

...just posting an alternative view (and waiting to get shot down!)

 

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Re: Three killing points
Roger3   6/1/2015 11:23:09 AM
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Good points !!! The soap opera is just begining !!!!

 

Max The Magnificent
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Re: Three killing points
Max The Magnificent   6/1/2015 10:56:18 AM
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@Roger3: ...the three killing points to this transaction: 1) HPC , 2) Fab filling and 3) market leadership.

Hi Rogerio -- thanks for your kind words -- I most admit thsi took me by surprise -- early last week I thought the deal was off -- by late last week the rumors were running again -- but I didn;t expect anything as soon as this morning.

There are so many other aspects to this -- including:

a) What will TSMC who build Altera's other devices think

b) What will AMD (Intel's biggest competitor in the X86 space) do? Of course AMD have for some time been moving more into embedded space, but thsi move is still going to affect them.

c) How will this affect Xilinx?

All sorts of thoughts are popping in and out of my head.

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