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Mobileye's mapping scheme can 'lock you in'
1/11/2016 00:01 AM EST
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Krutsch
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Krutsch   1/13/2016 9:36:50 AM
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Self-driving cars will come at some point, when enough financial momentum is built up. I think that without smart infrastructure this is not achievable safely and economically viable. Infrastructure changes are interesting for big companies and the money is not so insignificant so I am sure at some point in time the lobby will be very strong.

I do not believe in the concept "the car has to solve it"... This concept is not economically viable and would lead to a slow adoption rate.I expect that governments will gradually prepare infrastructure portions...MY's hopes different I guess.

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junko.yoshida   1/12/2016 7:20:34 PM
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@MP, it was good to see you today in the Valley. I am sorry I'd have to miss the IEEE event tomorrow. It looks like you have a great lineup. ( i just checked it on the web) Good Luck!!! And let us know what you've learned!!!

 

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docdivakar   1/12/2016 12:21:15 PM
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I think the solutions by MobileEye and NVidia are more complementary than competitive if one looks at a broader application scenario. As Bert also points out, short of not having a robust V2I radio infrastructure, one has to depend on manually entered information for navigation. This doesn't bode well in rural roads where Nvidia's 'expensive' solution may win.

For urban applications, I prefer V2I over MobileEye. Consider the lane separator buttons, also called Botts' dots. If they are enabled with BLE, they provide very precise navigational beacons like ILS for a plane landing.

We have a workshop here in Silicon Valley tomorrow that I am chairing. Autonomy, Connectivity & The Future of Transportation will look at electronics technologies for autonomous vehicles, role of virtual assistants at verying levels of autonomy and patents landscape in this area. Incidentally Junko helped me with some speakers' names for this workshop! More details can be found here:

comsocscv.org/showevent.php?id=1448958018

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Bert22306   1/11/2016 9:02:34 PM
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I use Waze. The interesting thing about Waze is that it provides a dynamic optimal route solution. And just like Mobileye claims its system works, Waze also uses information gathered from other Waze users. It's not a global standard. All those idiots texting while driving might actually be helping to provide you with a better route!

One might hope that the incessant stream of fine-detail information, like vehicles stopped by the side of the road, or where the next police car is located, is being entered by passengers, not by drivers. Let's be optimistic.

Is this info imperative? Well, that depends on whether we advocate a good V2I comm component to autonomous driving, or not. If you can't depend on solid V2I, then you will depend that much more on this manually entered information. Even good on-board sensors won't be enough, right? An on-board sensor alone won't be capable of computing optimal routes that bypass construction zones, traffic gridlock, cops blocking traffic lanes for one excuse or other, that truck that dumped a dozen sacks of potatoes on the road, and so on.

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junko.yoshida   1/11/2016 6:43:44 PM
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How important is "mapping" when you design self-driving cars?

I think Mobileye just presented a very interesting way for crowd-sourcing mapping data by having cars -- equipped with Mobileye chip and connectivity -- run on the road everywhere. It is a very shrewed move, on the part of Mobileye, I must say, as the mapping scheme only works on Mobileye chips (with a software update).

How important is mapping for autonomous cars, and what's your strategy?

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