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3/19/2013 06:01 AM EDT
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eewiz
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eewiz   3/19/2013 7:17:41 AM
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"There's money to be made in chip startups," the big EDA companies are usually not much interested in startups where there isn't much money to be made. Atleast this is my experience in dealing with a major EDA company on behalf of a startup, several years back. The major cost barrier for any semi startup is the EDA tool cost. Maybe the big EDA companies should do something to address this issue first. Something like give away the tools at very low cost and collect back royalties, when any money is made.

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RGRU   3/19/2013 8:10:27 AM
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Sounds like the Chinese and Indian versions of Solyndra to me. Payoffs to the connected.

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woohoo   3/19/2013 2:54:03 PM
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"and its painful to see your kids go to the other side of the world" don't get it.. talking like a priest there, what about people who went the other way.. nothing wrong in going to India or China to work.. “but I would hate to see those countries have the most semiconductor companies." HATE, why?? Lip Bu Tan: US is not the start and end of the world. They are the biggest market, don't make it sound like a war cry just yet.

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aktion99   3/19/2013 3:18:56 PM
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Why hate, maybe cos the US is the best and famous when we think about semi. Right now us is still the king on semiconductor although US not lead in production them. About more than 500 semiconductor companies is from US from giant to start up, IDM to fabless.Its not easy to succeed in this industry although you have the right products because large boy will try to put you down in many ways. And same also in China and India, were I think much of the players is fabless not IDM and fabless companies usually face very though competition and environment to succeed. Look in the US how fabless players going right now, its very though and competition with big player is intense only a handful will benefited. Thanks

woohoo
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woohoo   3/19/2013 4:22:23 PM
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Although I agree and did mention that US is a massive market and key driver of the semicond industry. All that has been possible partly due to a massive brain drain from India and China. The rhetoric where he tries to pitch it like a US vs India-China thing is unfortunate. We all know that the whole world is involved in design and development of almost every gadget, this kind of divisive talk is uninspiring to me.

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batavier   3/19/2013 5:17:28 PM
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Sounds like the LCD display "transfer" all over again: Developed in the US, now manufactured everywhere by everyone EXCEPT in this country by any US company.

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batavier   3/19/2013 5:27:42 PM
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Some additional reflection on this issue: In this country, investors are obsessed with quarterly returns. Oversees, there has been more of a long-term view - what is the outlook over five or ten years. The source of the funding is less relevant that this essential difference in outlook by investors in the US vs. Asia.

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chanj0   3/19/2013 5:58:31 PM
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In managerial point of view, manufacturing, or even performing R&D, elsewhere isn't much of a matter. The ultimate question always come down to to where the money will come, never from where. Previously, we have learned that production goes will trigger production related R&D is leaving. As the management, sooner or later, realizes the company might work more efficiently when R&D is actually closer to the production and QC people. As soon as China and India becomes the most profitable market, product manager will go. Now, most of the key resources are moving to elsewhere. Shall the management/ executive teams move too? The trend is an inevitable change of market life cycle. It is a good thing that part of the semi-conductor companies go to elsewhere since it will free up the resources in US for other innovation. The question is what the next innovation is. Stay Tune! ;)

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FISH1230   3/19/2013 8:19:38 PM
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China spends trillions on building empty residential houses, not spending billion on building Fabs.

M. Amine Essafi
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M. Amine Essafi   3/19/2013 9:57:43 PM
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xactly those kind of efforts will allow china and india to assure the major role player in the world's mircoelectronics industrie, This news will certainly encourage companies considering moving their operations or outsourcing to China and India or even for anyone planning a venture there, as well as those who still hesitate to invest or already taken their first steps...

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