Breaking News
News & Analysis

Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron

Hybrid DIMMs in a post-DRAM world
2/7/2013 08:10 PM EST
19 comments
NO RATINGS
< Previous Page 2 / 4 Next >
More Related Links
View Comments: Threaded | Newest First | Oldest First
rick merritt
User Rank
Blogger
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
rick merritt   2/7/2013 11:09:43 PM
NO RATINGS
Will flash hop on DDR4? What impact will that have for SSDs?

bberg950
User Rank
Rookie
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
bberg950   2/8/2013 6:39:12 PM
NO RATINGS
Viking Technology's ArxCis-NV has this same basic architecture for DDR3, and it is on the market now.

resistion
User Rank
Manager
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
resistion   2/8/2013 1:49:36 AM
NO RATINGS
There are serious errors in the chart on p. 2 like mlc and cell size for stt.

resistion
User Rank
Manager
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
resistion   2/8/2013 12:18:14 PM
NO RATINGS
"..post-DRAM world" Did Micron really use that expression?

rick merritt
User Rank
Blogger
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
rick merritt   2/12/2013 6:39:00 AM
NO RATINGS
It's a Micron foil

resistion
User Rank
Manager
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
resistion   2/12/2013 2:26:29 PM
NO RATINGS
It's rife with errors, like where did they get 10 nJ per bit for NAND? And STT needs transistor isolation, that's at least 6F^2. MLC is not even an option with low MR ratio.

resistion
User Rank
Manager
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
resistion   2/8/2013 1:54:13 AM
NO RATINGS
Mcp seems a commonly proposed solution for companies which make both dram and flash. Is it possible they're not making enough margin selling them separately? Their financials may indicate so.

eewiz
User Rank
CEO
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
eewiz   2/8/2013 4:30:17 AM
NO RATINGS
Interesting concept. Helps for an Instant boot in PCs I guess.

greenpattern
User Rank
Rookie
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
greenpattern   2/8/2013 6:53:04 AM
NO RATINGS
Looks incompatible with Intel CPUs with integrated memory controllers.

rick merritt
User Rank
Blogger
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
rick merritt   2/8/2013 5:36:59 PM
NO RATINGS
Samsung and Microsoft officially responded: No comment

resistion
User Rank
Manager
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
resistion   2/8/2013 5:46:35 PM
NO RATINGS
Micron also working with AgigA on NVDIMM http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20121114132456_Micron_and_AgigA_to_Develop_Non_Volatile_DIMM_Technology.html

vshadan
User Rank
Rookie
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
vshadan   2/8/2013 5:54:43 PM
NO RATINGS
FLASH requires ERASE and WRITE, Just the WRITE is much longer time than DRAM's WRITE. How is that taken care?

krisi
User Rank
CEO
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
krisi   2/9/2013 3:30:14 PM
NO RATINGS
Memory world is getting to be interesting...

EFosters
User Rank
Rookie
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
EFosters   2/9/2013 7:56:00 PM
NO RATINGS
Sounds similar to what Spansion and Virident tried to do a few years back, but with NOR. EcoRam DIMMs.

resistion
User Rank
Manager
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
resistion   2/10/2013 4:41:38 PM
NO RATINGS
I've always felt DRAM and NVM (i.e., Flash) had different applications, almost exclusive of each other. Generally, I don't expect what is buffered in DRAM to be stored directly, nor what has been stored to be directly read into a DRAM buffer.

dnh
User Rank
Rookie
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
dnh   2/11/2013 8:17:01 PM
NO RATINGS
The placing of Flash on the DIMM is an exciting development, with the potential of greatly improving PC performance. Unfortunately the figures in this article are so bad that it lacks credibility: What is 25M ns? Is that 25ms? Also the figures appear to be scanned in at a low resolution and are very hard to read, especially in the General/PrintView. While this is unfortunately typical of EETimes articles, the author of a post is responsible for his/her own postings. Rick Merritt - please fix your own post, and try to exert your influence to fix this generic problem.

rick merritt
User Rank
Blogger
re: Flash will ride DRAM bus in 2014, says Micron
rick merritt   2/12/2013 6:37:42 AM
NO RATINGS
@dnh I used foils provided by Micron at the largest size we can accommodate (did you note you can "click to enlarge" them?) Can you provide more specifics on what you would like to see improved? Also, don't hesitate to email me at rick.merritt@ubm.com

Flash Poll
Radio
LATEST ARCHIVED BROADCAST
Join our online Radio Show on Friday 11th July starting at 2:00pm Eastern, when EETimes editor of all things fun and interesting, Max Maxfield, and embedded systems expert, Jack Ganssle, will debate as to just what is, and is not, and embedded system.
Like Us on Facebook

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
EE Times on Twitter
EE Times Twitter Feed
Top Comments of the Week