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Things that go “meep” in the night
Clive Maxfield
2/9/2012 11:41 AM EST
Sometime around 3:00am this morning I was awakened by a very annoying electronic “meep” sound. I’m sure it must be from a smoke detector or something of that ilk telling me that its battery needs replacing, but I couldn’t work out which device was clamoring for my attention..
Apart from anything else, I hadn’t realized just how many “things” we have in our ceilings. When I actually started to pay attention in the wee hours of this morning, I discovered that we have white plastic enclosures with flashing LEDs all over the place… in our bedroom… in our bathroom… in the corridors…
Good Grief! Even when I take things like motion detectors and smoke alarms into account, there seem to be an awful lot of other things up there and I have no idea what they are all doing. It’s very, very strange.
But back to my annoying “meep”. First of all I attempted to use a low-tech approach… I tried to ignore it. I might have succeeded if the time between “meeps” had been just a tad longer, but another “meep” invariably came just as I was poised to slide back down into the land of nod. So after what seemed to be a year or two, I decided to find the offending unit and either (a) replace the battery or (b) reprogram it with a mallet.
I couldn’t turn on the light because I didn’t want to wake my wife (Gina the Gorgeous), so how does one go about determining the origin of the sound? I don’t know why, but for some reason the source of the “meeps” is not easy to pin down. Is it just my imagination, or are the duration of the “meeps” and the spacing between “meeps” designed to make it almost impossible to determine where the noise is actually coming from?
Following a “meep” you take a few steps and then stand there for ages waiting for the next “meep” (it may be only 10 seconds or so, but it seems much longer), and then off you go again.
This really is very annoying. Do the people who create these products ever actually “field test” them in any way?
WHY is this so difficult? It would be much easier if the %^#$# thing went “meep … meep … meep … meep …” so you could hone in on it. Or how about augmenting the "meeps" with a rapidly flashing LED – would that really be so hard? And what about incorporating some sort of sensor or timer so that the thing only starts “meeping” around dawn or dusk, which would mean that there would be a good chance you are in the house to hear it along with a reasonable chance that you wouldn’t be fast asleep when it goes off?
But do you know what the really frustrating thing is? I couldn’t track down the offending unit in the dark, so I ended up sticking cotton balls in my ears. Then, when I awoke this morning … the #$%@# thing had stopped “meeping”!!!
All I can say is that I am not wearing my happy face…
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Apart from anything else, I hadn’t realized just how many “things” we have in our ceilings. When I actually started to pay attention in the wee hours of this morning, I discovered that we have white plastic enclosures with flashing LEDs all over the place… in our bedroom… in our bathroom… in the corridors…
Good Grief! Even when I take things like motion detectors and smoke alarms into account, there seem to be an awful lot of other things up there and I have no idea what they are all doing. It’s very, very strange.
But back to my annoying “meep”. First of all I attempted to use a low-tech approach… I tried to ignore it. I might have succeeded if the time between “meeps” had been just a tad longer, but another “meep” invariably came just as I was poised to slide back down into the land of nod. So after what seemed to be a year or two, I decided to find the offending unit and either (a) replace the battery or (b) reprogram it with a mallet.
I couldn’t turn on the light because I didn’t want to wake my wife (Gina the Gorgeous), so how does one go about determining the origin of the sound? I don’t know why, but for some reason the source of the “meeps” is not easy to pin down. Is it just my imagination, or are the duration of the “meeps” and the spacing between “meeps” designed to make it almost impossible to determine where the noise is actually coming from?
Following a “meep” you take a few steps and then stand there for ages waiting for the next “meep” (it may be only 10 seconds or so, but it seems much longer), and then off you go again.
This really is very annoying. Do the people who create these products ever actually “field test” them in any way?
WHY is this so difficult? It would be much easier if the %^#$# thing went “meep … meep … meep … meep …” so you could hone in on it. Or how about augmenting the "meeps" with a rapidly flashing LED – would that really be so hard? And what about incorporating some sort of sensor or timer so that the thing only starts “meeping” around dawn or dusk, which would mean that there would be a good chance you are in the house to hear it along with a reasonable chance that you wouldn’t be fast asleep when it goes off?
But do you know what the really frustrating thing is? I couldn’t track down the offending unit in the dark, so I ended up sticking cotton balls in my ears. Then, when I awoke this morning … the #$%@# thing had stopped “meeping”!!!
All I can say is that I am not wearing my happy face…
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David Ashton
2/9/2012 5:02 PM EST
I have a watch that does that. Every so often I get it into a mode where it "meeps" every hour, and I have to find and read the manual (no small task, especially the finding) to work out how to switch the hourly "meep" off.
And they always seem to make the "meeps" at a frequency where your ears are not very directional...
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 10:09 AM EST
Who said that?
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antedeluvian
2/9/2012 6:20 PM EST
In my case the "meep" was cell phone in my wife's purse. No flashing displays would have helped and the muffled sound gave no directionality at all.
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 10:09 AM EST
My wife bought me a watch for Christmas -- it looks like the control panel for a 747 -- it has so many knobs and dials that it's difficult to find the ones that tell the time (grin)
There's some sort of alarm function that goes off at 2:00am every morning -- I have no idea where I put the instructions -- so every night before I go to bed I have to bury the watch at the bottom of my sock drawer...
... I tell you, t=you wouldn't believe my life if you saw it as a sitcom on TV :-)
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antedeluvian
2/10/2012 10:18 AM EST
I had a watch like that, but the instructions didn't seem affect the way the watch worked. It also just beeped in the middle of the night. It aslo had a compass (just a magnet on a pivot) and it couldn't find north. It always pointed in the same direction, just not north. Uswed to tell the time OK, but I am not sure which time zone.
I have an alarm clock that every now and then ignores the switch setting (cured by a shpritz of switch cleaner) and beeps when it is off. I normally get up before the alarm anyway and turn it off. But it gets the wife... (nasty chuckle).
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ReneCardenas
2/13/2012 5:20 PM EST
Max,
Are you telling us that you are the human incarnation of Dilbert and a reality show is in the works . . .
;-) LoL
I agree with the statement, that the frequency of lowVoltage Battry warning could be improved. I have assumed that is intended to provide the longest warning possible to get our attention eventually, like a whining child.
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Max the Magnificent
2/17/2012 2:51 AM EST
I'm starting to think that Dilbert was modeled on me :-)
Re the warning signals -- I just think something could be done better -- it seems that everyone I talk to has spent hours trying to work out just which "thing" is beeping :-)
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SteveD_Aus
2/9/2012 9:51 PM EST
And of course it's always at night since batteries operate less efficiently at lower temperatures. Perhaps the need to latch the low battery trigger until a light sensor indicates it's no longer night time? ;-)
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 10:06 AM EST
Ah Ha!!! That explains it!!!
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amacon
2/10/2012 3:21 PM EST
I remember long ago when every night about 3am my fire alarm would actually go off (no fires, though). I replaced the batteries, checked the wiring, everything I could think of. One night I was so annoyed I threw a shoe at it (luckily a slipper, not a boot). A cockroach fell out. A shot of Raid fixed the problem.
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 4:25 PM EST
When I was a student I lived in a block of flats that had cockroaches ... I HATED them...
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antiquus
2/10/2012 3:23 PM EST
In Arizona, we have crickets that lead to midnight-annoyance.... but crickets are self-propelled.
When you look at those lights, just imagine that each is probably 25mW. You own ten, I own ten, everybody owns 10, and there are 300M Americans. That makes 75MW of glowing LEDs!!!
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 4:26 PM EST
Now think about the microwaves and TVs and HVACs and ...
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Bytefield
2/10/2012 3:42 PM EST
I was spending the night in my sister's guest/junk room, about to fall asleep when I hear what sounds like a cricket chirp. Try to ignore it, but it keeps repeating. Grab my shoe and try to find him, but hard to localize the sound, too brief.
Get my watch and time the period between chirps. Exactly the same, so it's artificial.
Knowing when the next chirp will be, I eventually find the general area of the sound: a group of moving boxes. After searching through several, I finally discover a smoke detector carefully packed away, battery on its last legs...
A truly evil prank: hide a detector with an aging battery where someone will never find it.
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 4:27 PM EST
Hmmmmmmm not that I would ever do that ....
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David Ashton
2/10/2012 5:27 PM EST
A friend some time ago gave me an electronic "Cricket" which he built from a kit and it didn't work. It beeps occasionally when it is dark, but it has a photocell on it and shuts up if it gets light on it. Object: to annoy the crap out of anyone who is near it. I gotta fix it sometime (after Max's atmosheric monitor and my HP counter and my calibrator and my DMM that doesnt work on ac and...and.....)
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SteveD_Aus
2/16/2012 6:23 PM EST
Thank prank is on the level of a dead fish hidden behind a car's hubcap!
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BrainiacV
2/10/2012 3:43 PM EST
A friend and I spent a weekend trying to discover from what and where this cricket-like sound was coming from.
He told me a month or so later he had tracked it down to a smoke detector.
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Max the Magnificent
2/10/2012 4:27 PM EST
You can get an "anoyathon" from ThinkGeek.com that you slip into someone's office and it makes random sounds...
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ThermalHunter
2/10/2012 5:30 PM EST
Reminds me of the retaliatory prank played on the late Jim Williams:
"To get back I bought 8 watches that beeped only once every 24 hours, they were expertly installed in his walls, bed, heating ducts and on his dog. He never found all of them.... they beeped for 5 years until the batteries died."
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zeeglen
2/15/2012 7:15 AM EST
Not 'meep', but speaking of long term retaliatory did you ever hear about the woman who just before she left her husband and his girlfriend stuffed his curtain rods full of raw shrimp? Eeeuuu!
One of my kids once left his cordless phone in the living room under the newspaper basket. Of course when the battery got low it meeped, I hunted for the darn thing for hours and didn't even know what I was looking for. Wonder why they don't make every 10th meep longer duration?
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Max the Magnificent
2/15/2012 11:40 AM EST
I have heard about that shrimp one -- urrggghhh
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David Ashton
2/10/2012 5:30 PM EST
I once worked on a project refitting a shop. The Project manager had a PC with a screen saver that had crickets, owls hooting and various other nocturnal noises. He also had one (only one) CD, of Simply Red, which he had on repeat play.... now, whenever I hear Simply Red songs, I wind up wondering where the cricketa and owls are....
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E-Unit
2/15/2012 3:43 AM EST
The BBC engineers in london had a gadget that sounded just like their pagers but bleeped only briefly every so many minutes, just enough to stop whichever senior engineer was staying overnight in an office from sleeping but short enough burst to ensure they never found it. Apparently these evil pranks had been going on for some years, indeed they may still be doing so now. It was a fun place to start my career but I'm glad of the quieter life now. :-)
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Max the Magnificent
2/15/2012 11:42 AM EST
I wonder how many intentional "meeps" and "beeps" have been perpetrated over the years...
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Ralph E_#1
2/17/2012 12:42 AM EST
Hello Max,
Wasn't Meep the little alien on Phineas and Ferb? Sorry about that. This actually happened to us about six weeks ago. Turns out the fire alarm in my son's bedroom in our recent addition had a faulty hot wire connection to the 110 volt house wiring. So the alarm ran off batteries for about six months and then complained. Since my meter didn't show the 110 volts present, I climbed into the attic to hunt down the problem. Then realized all I had to do was take the unit apart from the hallway to fix the wire. My wife says this is because I always expect the problem to be a worst case scenario. Bummer. But at least it was a low cost problem to fix.
Cheers,
Ralph
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Max the Magnificent
2/17/2012 2:54 AM EST
## Wasn't "Meep" the little Alien...?
I don't know, but "Max" is the name of every dog and every robot on every science fiction film :-)
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Rick_Hille
2/17/2012 8:50 AM EST
My own meep story came to a conclusion fairly recently. Literally for years, something would meep at exactly midnight for exactly 1 minute in our basement rec room. As David A noted, the frequency was just high enough to conceal its direction. Since the room got second billing to our living/home-theatre room, it got little use and I just never bothered to try finding the source. One late evening as I sat down there, the "meep" commenced as usual, and I finally resolved to find it.
Deductive reasoning led me to suspect that the sound came from a closet full of now unused ski clothing and winter jackets. It took two nights due to the short duration of the meeping (gotta be a watch), of systematically unloading the closet during the sounding minute. The first night, the final meep was still in the closet and not in the pile of jackets on the nearby sofa. All hung back up and deemed "clean", the next night saw the remaining "unclean" items frantically dumped out before the source extinguished. It was definitely in that pile but stopped before I could zero in. One by one I checked pockets; a thigh pocket in an old pair of boarder pants yielded the culprit; a wristwatch. There was a moment of indescribable satisfaction in finally silencing the little bugger (by its buttons, not a hammer, of course).
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Max the Magnificent
2/17/2012 10:58 AM EST
I have a warm glow knowing that I am not alone -- when you are wandering around in the wee hours of the morning, there's a tendency to think that you are the only one who has this sort of a problem :-)
PS Why do you say "of course"? Personally I think reprogramming these little rascals with a mallet is a viable solution to the problem...
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dleske
2/19/2012 8:00 AM EST
I had a similar problem with a smoke detector recently - beeping to indicate low battery. Even though I know the location of the three units in the house - standing under one and waiting a few minutes for the next beep - it was still frustratingly difficult to tell (due to echoes) if that was the one!
I certainly agree with the comments about inadequate usability design, for an object meant to be noticed!
The problem is the short duration of the beep - by the time you turn your head to get a fix on the direction, it has stopped. Also the high frequency is difficult to get a direction fix on.
They should make at least two sounds (beep-beep) to be more detectable.
Similar thing for an hourly chime on watches: many give a brief "pip" - just enough to disturb you, but too short for you to realise what it is. Again, they should use a beep-beep to be properly noticed - or turned off. [Bumping one button on my watch toggles chime on/off - annoying.]
When our children were younger (pre-school), it seemed that just about every toy played a tune, made beeps or spoke when touched. Invariably, while trying to move about quietly after bedtime, someone would bump a pile of toys and trigger sounds. A talking toy nearly gave their grandmother a heart-attack.
Most old toys in storage have now had their batteries removed, but sometimes I still hear a noise when moving boxes!
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masher
2/23/2012 2:44 PM EST
It must have something to do with solar flares.
Simply amazing the timing of this article, we had 3 meeps yesterday afternoon and then last night and all were traced to smoke detectors.
The bird was chirping back at the smoke detectors, the Cats were curious about the bird chirping and the dogs were being wimps due to the constant meeps.
All of these are AC powered with 9 volt alkaline backup battery.
Why can't the designers of these smoke detectors put a 9 volt rechargable battery in them with a suitable charging circuit that keeps the battery topped off all the time.
Mike
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Max the Magnificent
2/23/2012 2:45 PM EST
@Why can't the designers of these smoke detectors...
Because then they wouldn't have anyone to laugh at :-)
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masher
2/23/2012 3:15 PM EST
True it is pretty humorous except when it happens at 3AM.
My house sounded like an insane punk rock version of Old McDonalds Farm, what with the smoke detectors all out of sync, the bird chirping and flapping around, the Cats Meowing and the dogs wimpering.
I'm thinking of when I retire from electronics I may open up an electronic device skeet shooting (or MEEP shooting) range.
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David Ashton
2/23/2012 7:27 PM EST
There's a thought. Ser up a shooting range with old PCs as targets (you could use old CRT monitors as well) beeping for bad POST tests or showing blue screens of death. I reckon the world would beat a path to your door. Who hasn't wanted to shoot their PC at some point??
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Frank Eory
2/23/2012 6:52 PM EST
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this frustrating curiosity of AC powered smoke detectors with backup batteries -- they also meep when they need replacement, presumably when their tiny amount of radioactive material is no longer sufficiently able to ionize the air in the detector.
More than once, I have been awakened in the middle of the night by the meep noise and had to locate the offending detector, unplug it from the AC connector dangling through the ceiling and then yank the back up battery too. Only then would the meeping stop!
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