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EDA pundits envision more 'ASIC-like tools' for FPGAs
Dylan McGrath
11/3/2009 10:35 PM EST
The hosts were Jim Hogan, a former bigwig at Cadence Design Systems turned venture capitalist, and Paul McLellan, a veteran EDA exec and consultant and author of the blog EDA Graffiti. The pair outlined a number of now-familiar challenges facing the broader semiconductor industry: fragmenting markets, steeper adoption ramps, increasing design costs and fewer markets that demand high volumes of 150 to 200 million chips.
Xilinx President and CEO Moshe Gavrielov and others in programmable logic use these exact same trends to support their thesis: that FPGAs will reign supreme because there are fewer and fewer market opportunities where doing an ASIC or ASSP makes economic sense.
Hogan and McLellan used June-quarter data from Xilinx and Altera to demonstrate that, combined, the companies generate 40 percent of total FPGA revenue from "new" products. [Random note #2: This is category defined by Xilinx as Virtex-5 and -6, and Spartan-6, -3A and -3E; for Altera it's Stratix II, III and IV, Arria GX, II GX, Cyclone II and III, Max II and HardCopy and HardCopy II devices]. Hogan and McClellan said the "new" category represents about 12 percent of 90,000 projected total design starts.
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| Jim Hogan Managing partner Vista Ventures |
"You can't deal with that complexity without ASIC-like tools," Hogan said.
McLellan said FPGAs will need to employ more sophisticated design techniques to reduce power consumption and, presumably, will need more sophisticated tools to do so.
"As far as I know, FPGAs don't have lots of power islands and that sort of thing," McLellan said. "But they're going to have to start moving in that direction."
Neither Hogan nor McLellan suggested that more revenue from the FPGA world would by itself cure what ails EDA. But Hogan did say EDA was "right on the cusp" of generating more money from the space, which has traditionally seen limited offerings from EDA vendors since FPGA vendors offer their own low-cost tools optimized for their particular architectures.
[Random note #3: What did they prescribe for EDA? "Software signoff" (defined by McLellan as taking software written in C and CC++ and synthesizing parts of it into FPGAs and compiling the rest into binary to run on processors in the FPGA), a move to system-level design and an emphasis on tools and services that optimize designs. You can read more about the presentation on EDA Graffiti.]
[Random note #4: Is it just me or does everyone have a different suggestion for what EDA needs to do to evolve?]
Still, it's clear they see room for more third-party design tools aimed at FPGA users.
"Since a good portion of SoCs are using FPGAs as a simulation accelerator or emulator, I expect the tool budgets will now get interesting," Hogan said in an email exchange following the presentation.






pitchMonk1
11/5/2009 12:29 PM EST
FPGAs seldom use static power islands.This is because the mapping functions become extremely complex to deal with islands. FPGAs need innovative techniques to lower power. Altera uses Vt scaling which can reduce leakage. In order to lower active power (that too significantly), you need sophisticated techniques. I recently helped an FPGA company to solve the power issue with some innovative techniques. If anyone is interested in knowing more, please leave your e-mail address and I can contact you. Thanks.
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