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Mineyes

10/10/2012 1:14 PM EDT

In USA, NFPA 70E, "STANDARD for Electrical Safety in the Workplace", 2012 ...

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Salio

12/31/2010 5:34 PM EST

You are lucky that this didn't end in something worse than just cold oil gushing ...

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Valve jam poses near-disaster for EEs

Alan Stummer

12/14/2010 8:53 AM EST

EEs learn that knowledge and experience in electronics does not translate into hands-on experience in other fields.

Way back in the late 1970s, fresh out of school, I worked for a very small custom electronics company. We made controls for heavy industries such as steel mills, offshore oil rigs and mining. .

In steel mills, the cast bars would cool and have surface cracks. The surface was ground off with grinders to reach clean steel before rolling. These machines had large 300HP motors with huge grinding wheels. Hydraulics controlled the wheel position and therefore the power and amount of steel removed. Other hydraulics ran the steel back and forth under the wheel on what looked like short flatbed railway cars. Our controls were a mix of analog for the wheel position control and Motorola's 6800 series of 8-bit processors (all code written in assembler!) for the steel bar positioning.

As always, we designed and made the controls and shipped them to the mill. Once the hydraulics, mechanical apparatus and our electronics was installed, we would go to commission our electronics. Invariably, something would fail. A hose would break (wonderful fountains at 1500PSI!), a fitting would leak, a valve would jam, a belt would be thrown. Big red shutdown buttons were always nearby--and used. .

Late one evening we were busy trying to finish off an installation. The hydraulic control valve that raised and lowered the grinding wheel jammed. The three of us--my boss, a millwright and me--climbed the stairs up the tower to check to see what was jamming the valve and holding the wheel up. Judicious tapping with a wrench did nothing. The valve would have to be replaced. The hydraulic cylinder was holding up a heavy mechanism with a heavy grinding wheel, the valve controlled the cylinder.

It was the end of a long day and us electronics folks were not thinking clearly about hydraulics. Gathered around the valve on the catwalk, we helped the millwright loosen the valve. Quite predictably, it came loose and let loose a torrent of oil as the wheel dropped. We were soaked in oil. Fortunately it was not hot and of course the pumps were off. After the initial shock, a quick check that we all survived intact. We laughed at our stupidity as we wiped oil out of our eyes. We wiped away more oil and more again. No rags so we used our sleeves.

We stopped laughing as we noticed that none of us could open our eyes with all of that oil running over our faces. The mill was closed except for us--no shift that night. We sat there on the catwalk rubbing our eyes and eventually, chuckling at our mistake, we climbed down. Disaster dodged. .

We survived intact. Knowledge and experience in electronics does not translate into hands-on experience in other fields. I now leave the mechanical engineering to mechanical engineers, the software to the coders (I do write test code and sometimes that gets used, much to my chagrin). I find most people surprisingly competent at their job, whether it be a millwright or PCB assembler. I can wield a soldering iron but the best solderers are those who wield them eight hours a day. I can change a hydraulic valve but would greatly prefer a millwright to do it. Maybe we should have noticed that our millwright was tired or not confident in his work. Maybe we should have questioned the safety aspect. Maybe we should not have tried to rush to finish commissioning our controls. Maybe, maybe. Live and learn. .

My designs these days are a few orders of magnitude faster than the 6800 series, have progressed from ±15V supplies to +1.2V to +5V, use a fraction of the power and are always SMT. Thanks, but I can pass on the good old days of electronics from a few decades ago.





clematis

12/17/2010 2:42 PM EST

You are lucky - this could have been much worse. My wife works in an operating room in Baltimore and several times a year sees patients with severe "hydraulic" injuries - high pressure oil can break right through your skin and thoroughly infiltrate your tissue, getting into your blood stream - a real toxic mess not to mention the direct damage done to the tissue itself. Be careful out there!

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Cragar1

12/17/2010 3:57 PM EST

Reminds me of a time working on an old open-construction 2000HP synchronous motor (with the easy-to-reach rotor and windings) and control circuit. Everyone's tired and we have a manager hovering over us demanding we speed things up. We sped things up alright by untagging the power too early and accidentally starting the damn motor while guys were still working on the circuit! Could have easily killed someone. One poor guy had to run to another building just to trip the main breaker. Be careful out there indeed! Don't EVER let someone - even your boss - make you do something unsafe.

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David Ashton

12/17/2010 7:12 PM EST

"Don't EVER let someone - even your boss - make you do something unsafe."

ESPECIALLY your boss. Often they're the boss because they can't do what you do.

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WKetel

12/17/2010 7:45 PM EST

At one employer, the first thing that I would do after switching off the disconnect and locking it off was to wire a direct short circuit across all 3 phases, so that it could not be powered while I worked on it.
I wonder if there was a diagnostic command set to allow manually operating the valve, or a pilot light to indicate that the coils was energized. Those are two of my startup and service tools. Also, I wonder what you thought could be accomplished by disconnecting the valve. That would be the very last thing to try. Sometimes I was able to determine if the valve was powered by holding a screwdriver near the solenoid coil, and feeling the pull. Of course, as an EE designing control systems, I did study hydraulics on my own in order to know what was happening.

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David.Bell

12/18/2010 12:43 PM EST

You asked what he thought could be accomplished by disconnecting the valve?

"The valve would have to be replaced."

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LFHeller

12/18/2010 1:48 PM EST

When I was a student apprentice at English-Electric's Kidsgrove works, I was working in the computing lab. next to the partition separating it from the control systems lab. I heard a commotion on the other side of the partition, looked over and saw one of the engineers slumped by some 3-phase 440V bus bars. He'd somehow got his hands across two of the phases. Someone pressed the emergency stop button, it didn't work and the motor-generator down in the basement had to be switched off manually.

Luckily, Iain wasn't killed, he just had badly burnt hands, and was back at work a couple of days later, heavily bandaged.

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dBruceP

12/19/2010 5:40 PM EST

Friends, I am surprised noone mentioned the "Zero Energy State" rule. Whenever one is going to work on process equipment, it must always be put in a ZES. In addition to removing power source, one must relieve all potential energy in the system. Had that been done, there would have been zero pressure in the hydraulic line. Furthermore, the "heavy grinding wheel" should have been propped or tethered so that it could not change position.

So, there at least TWO safety violations involved in the work -- not to mention the absence of a lookout who could provide assistance when "stuff" happened.

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Salio

12/31/2010 5:34 PM EST

You are lucky that this didn't end in something worse than just cold oil gushing out you guys. Maintenance procedures were not followed and you are lucky that no injuries resulted from this mishap.

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Mineyes

10/10/2012 1:14 PM EDT

In USA, NFPA 70E, "STANDARD for Electrical Safety in the Workplace", 2012 Edition is the guideline.

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