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Mike Santarini

9/28/2010 8:11 PM EDT

Maybe in this case they meant Frito-Lay, when they said they would "buy a chip ...

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taro76w

9/28/2010 5:15 AM EDT

NetLogic would make a lot of sense assuming they can get their multi core ...

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Chip firms on Ellison's shopping list

9/24/2010 2:31 PM EDT

SAN JOSE, Calif.--At Oracle Corp.’s annual meeting in San Francisco on Thursday (Sept. 23), the database company said it may buy a chip maker.

Oracle Chief Executive Larry Ellison made the surprising announcement, saying he wants to bolster the company’s hardware business. Earlier this year, Oracle completed the purchase of server manufacturer Sun Microsystems Inc.  

Ellison did not elaborate which companies Oracle is looking at. Still, the announcement caused a wave of speculation in the chip community. Many stocks, including ARM Holdings plc, jumped as a result of the news.

So which chip companies are the likely acquisition targets for Oracle?

Some speculated that Advanced Micro Devices Inc. and ARM were possible candidates, although analysts dismissed those rumors. Mellanox Technologies could be an acquisition candidate, according to the International Business Times, citing ThinkEquity as its source.

Still others think that Oracle may take a look at an EDA vendor. Providing their opinions, editors from EE Times weighed in on what Oracle may do in terms of chip acquisitions:

Rick Merritt, editor-at-large for EE Times:
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''Mellanox is a distant possibility. They are the only maker of Infiniband chips. (They) supply IBM and other Oracle competitors. They are also doing pretty well these days so they don’t need or probably even don’t want to be acquired.

The megatrend in servers is to sell servers, networking and storage as a bundle. Sun is relatively weak in networking compared to HP and IBM. If Oracle acquires any chip companies, I suspect they would be in 10G+ Ethernet.

A more likely (acquisition) scenario would be Aquantia who like Teranetics (bought by PLX) is a standalone 10GBase-T PHY company that has raised $100 million and not shown profitability yet.  A wild card might be SeaMicro, that Atom-based low power multiprocessing server startup that debuted this year. I would not expect Oracle needs a fab.’’



Mark LaPedus, semiconductor editor of EE Times:

''I can see Oracle ditching Sun’s Sparc chip in the distant future. Sparc is  running out of gas. But I can’t see Oracle buying AMD or ARM. That makes no sense. I also don’t see Oracle building a fab.

However, I could see Oracle investing or buying a company with expertise in the ARM world. Oracle/Sun may want an ARM-based server one day. I can see Oracle investing in startup Smooth-Stone Inc.. The ARM-based chip server startup has recently raised $48 million from a  syndicate of investors, including ARM, Advanced Technology Investment Co. (ATIC) and Texas Instruments Inc.

Like Rick, I can see Oracle buying a networking chip firm. But one of the issues for computer systems houses is the lingering bandwidth bottleneck problem, especially between the processor and memory. There are a lot of new ideas on how to solve the problem, namely using a new class of storage subsystems or I/O systems, based on NAND.

Perhaps Oracle could make a play for any number of these guys, namely Fusion-io, Violin Memory and Virident. Virident seems ripe for an acquisition, at least in my opinion. So is Fusion-io, which has a strategic alliance with HP’s server unit. I am sure Ellison would love to upset HP even more and buy Fusion-io.
         
Last but not least, Oracle seems to be going against the grain here. One of Sun’s server rivals-IBM-has an internal chip unit. Big Blue is mainly known for developing ASICs and microprocessors. IBM also has a fab.

IBM also made several chip acquisitions over the years, but most of those did not work out. Big Blue has divested many of those acquisitions. It got burned in the standards products business and would prefer to stay out of the arena.

Another server vendor-Hewlett-Packard Co.-got out of the chip business several years ago. If you recall, it spin out its chip operations into a company called Agilent, which, in turn, spun out the IC unit into an entity called Avago.

Another computer vendor, Fujitsu Ltd., is spinning out its chip unit. So I’m scratching my about Ellison’s comments.  Perhaps he wants to emulate Cisco, which has made several chip acquisitions in the past, as a means to gain internal expertise and designers.''            



Dylan McGrath, editor of EETimes.com:

''In the past there has been some wild speculation that Oracle might muscle its way into the EDA business by buying one of the 'Big Three EDA vendors—Synopsys Inc., Mentor Graphics Corp. or Cadence Design Systems Inc. But people who follow EDA are quick to dismiss this speculation, often laughingly. EDA is simply too small a market to interest Oracle, and there are not many synergies between the businesses. Ray Bingham, a former CEO and chairman at Cadence, has been a member of Oracle's board of directors since 2002.''




junko.yoshida

9/24/2010 3:01 PM EDT

Data centers are where many network chips are being consumed these days, according to Freescale's senior vice president Lisa Su.

Considering data centers are the place where Oracle/Sun play a major role, I would vote for Oracle's acquisition of a network chip vendor...

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mali.venkatesan

9/24/2010 7:09 PM EDT

Connectivity is the new norm today. Computing, by itself is great, but if you are not connected to propagate the results of computing to end user, that is useless. Especially with multicore chips replacing single-core chips in many designs, one core can do all the computing and another core/cores can take on many networking tasks. I would think those that have expertise in wired networks would be leading candidates.

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goafrit

9/24/2010 10:35 PM EDT

I seem to agree with you. Network maker seems to be the only synergy I can see. In the near future, we will have xware company companies where the 'x' could be software and hardware. IBM is already like that. HP same and Oracle wants to follow that path. Welcome to the future of business.

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yalanand

9/24/2010 4:24 PM EDT

Interesting , Intel buys McCaffe and Oracle is planning to buy hardware comapny. Is it new trend in making ?

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Warren

9/24/2010 6:48 PM EDT

I perceive the two strategies as diametrically-opposed; where I perceive Intel's interests in McAfee as enhancing the horizontal market it wants to foster, I see Oracle's interest in hardware as increasing their position as a vertical supplier.

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nicolas.mokhoff

9/25/2010 6:46 AM EDT

I agree with Warren. In fact, Oracle has an ongoing battle with IBM and wants to displace it as the system solution provider for the enterprise. It's been an ongoign battle for awhile. With Mark Hurd from HP on board as one of two Oracle presidents it would not surprise me to see Oracle eyeing HP as a possible target. That would be a formidable power for leader IBM to contend with. But does HP have chip power left to entice Oracle?

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John.Smith_#93

9/26/2010 9:15 AM EDT

Well, I am not at all surprised with Larry's decision. I would think, his decision is inspiration from cisco's acquisition strategy. Why would Cisco aquire WebEx / Scientific Atlanta. Cisco thinks, enough of networking stuff. Let's do something different. Oracle's decision is in the same line. The possible acquisition would be the networking companies which are struggling to expand ( LSI Logic, force10, etc..) or still old surviving start ups with diversified product solutions ( chelsio, cortina ..etc. ) May be a struggling divisions of established companies.

Trick is old but with a new application.

What say Larry ?

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mark.lapedus

9/27/2010 1:03 PM EDT

According to Barron's, Oracle is possibly looking at the following chip makers: ARM, AMD, MIPS and Mellanox. Briefing.com says NetLogic is also on Oracle's list. Any comments out there?

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taro76w

9/28/2010 5:15 AM EDT

NetLogic would make a lot of sense assuming they can get their multi core processor new spin to work. Add to that: They are pretty much the sole source of T-CAMs these days with Cisco being by far the dominant customer, then a customer of Ellison :)

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mark.lapedus

9/27/2010 1:13 PM EDT

Here's what Bloomberg posted: Doug Freedman, an analyst at Gleacher & Co., said potential targets for Oracle include AMD, IBM's chip division and Nvidia. Thoughts on that?

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John.Smith_#93

9/27/2010 2:16 PM EDT

Anyone thought how could IBM swallow BLADE ?
With this, IBM is more focusing on storage. IBM's chip division ( excluding server business )is under loss. NetLogic can provide complex search engine algorithms. Where is the place for it on Oracle's circuit board unless you need highly-advanced packet processor.

I think, Oracle can build another montalvo like processor with SUN's team ( half of montalvo team already resigned ). Or wait for AMD to sink some more.

So question is after all these which FAB Oracle uses ?.

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milosb55

9/27/2010 3:58 PM EDT

I think NVIDIA is best choice for Oracle since its GPU can easily be adopted for parallel processing that Oracle needs to have hedge against Cisco or IBM and also NVIDA has manufacturing abilities unlike ARM that is only an IP company.
My money is on NVIDIA.

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goafrit

9/27/2010 7:09 PM EDT

There is no order today, we are reaching the ultimate fusion of hardware and software. Oracle will pick AMD and NVIDIA. In ten years, the industry will seize to be hardware or software. It will simple be technology firm.

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Singh_Y

9/27/2010 8:57 PM EDT

You probably need to consider the recent deals at HP over the last 30 days. It may give you insight onto HP's thinking . Hurd will probably be championing some of the thinking in the Chip/Hardware direction. Could be even Marvell/nvidia or Brocade if it is a smaller play. I do not think they will pursue HP unless HP falters over the next 6-9 months and share drops to below $ 30

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Mike Santarini

9/28/2010 8:11 PM EDT

Maybe in this case they meant Frito-Lay, when they said they would "buy a chip maker." It would make more business sense...

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