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LarryM99

10/13/2010 6:55 PM EDT

The knee-jerk response in the past has always been the current version of ...

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eewiz

10/13/2010 7:25 AM EDT

IIRC min 8GB internal memory & 512MB RAM is a must for any WP7 devices.

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Update: Microsoft's tardy response to iPhone

Rick Merritt

10/11/2010 5:49 AM EDT

Analysts weigh in on Win7 phones

Here are some (lightly edited) analysts comments on the Win7 Phone launch today.

From Satish Menon of Forward Concepts:

Microsoft is more than a year too late during a very critical period in the smartphone space when new players like Apple and Google (Android) have established themselves firmly in the market.

In terms of hardware partners they lost exclusivity with HTC who now ships far more Android devices than Windows Mobile devices. HTC's shipments accounted for more than 50 percent of the global Windows mobile shipments before they turned to Android so the loss of exclusivity there is a big hit to Microsoft.

Samsung was another big Windows Mobile supplier who is also now more focused on Android while Motorola has moved away completely from Microsoft exclusively towards Android.  So Microsoft will face serious challenges in its attempt to regain mind share of its old tier-one hardware partners.

As for end users, Microsoft's strong presence in computing will likely generate relatively strong demand for Win7 phones from business users. Here, Microsoft will battle for market share with RIM.

In the larger consumer segment the company will continue to face severe headwinds competing with Android and iOS. Microsoft has little leverage from its failed consumer products, Zune and Kin. Xbox could be a different story but won’t be significant enough to make WP7 a serious consumer smartphone.  Severe lack of third party applications is another problem when it comes to the consumer space.

Microsoft strategic decision to exclusively address the high-end smartphone segment with Windows Phone 7 could prove to be misplaced as the fast growing mid-range segment has less competition than the high-end.

With Qualcomm being the primary supplier of processors, Windows Phone 7 has little hardware advantage over Android phones which predominantly uses the same chips.

Microsoft’s overall market share in smartphones is forecast to be around 6 percent this year, a severe drop from its 12 percent share in 2009. Part of this loss could be recouped in 2011 by Windows Phone 7. However, in the longer term, Microsoft will continue experiencing competitive pressures from Android and Apple in the business segment.

Overall, we see market share for Windows Phone over the next three years languishing in the 5-7 percent range.

From Ben Bajarin of Creative Strategies:

Tight Office integration is going to be a differentiator that Microsoft will have and can continue to develop upon. The Xbox live integration will also be interesting as a differentiator that could appeal to more of the core Xbox users. In general, the user interface is solid and should appeal to consumers.

Hardware-wise I haven't seen anything mind blowing yet however the HTC HD7 looks like one of the better devices at launch.

Overall, I think MSFT has a shot to be successful in this market however it won't be easy as retail positioning and carrier differentiation may come at a premium. Loads of consumers are walking in to carrier stores asking for Android devices so there will need to be some serious marketing by MSFT and their partners to position Windows Phone 7 so that consumers will give it a fair shake. 





selinz

10/11/2010 2:24 PM EDT

I've been whining for a MS update for quite some time. This is because:
1) I have lots of apps on my existing phone--strike one... The scuttlebutt is that old apps won't work
2) I like being able to scribble notes and draw using a stylus--strike two. No stylus, no handwriting recognition.
3) seemless integration with my Windows machines. OK, so far this still appears to be OK. I'll call it a ball.
4) Available at a company with a relatively inexpensive data plan... Well, at least TMobile has an offering... No Sprint announcement. Ball 2.
So I'm sitting at 2 and 2 with 2 outs... I'll take a base hit at this point, they don't even have to knock it out of the park... Just get on base for crying out loud....

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pavelz

10/12/2010 6:53 PM EDT

You write:
"2) I like being able to scribble notes and draw using a stylus--strike two. No stylus, no handwriting recognition."

Agreed - I also like to be able to do that. I am running WinMobile6.5, and I didn't much like the PhatWare's version of handwriting recognition. May I ask you what do you use for handwriting recognition on your MS phone? And what drawing tool?

Thanks,

Pavel

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chanj

10/11/2010 2:44 PM EDT

iPhone, Android and Windows Mobile 7, who's going to be the winner? What do you think the contributing factors are going to be? Apps?

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rick.merritt

10/11/2010 3:06 PM EDT

@Selinz: Nice end-user analysis.

Does anyone know the OEM hardware requirements for Win7 besides what I have outlined above?

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eewiz

10/13/2010 7:25 AM EDT

IIRC min 8GB internal memory & 512MB RAM is a must for any WP7 devices.

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LarryM99

10/11/2010 10:13 PM EDT

The lack of Tegra support is certainly not going to help them on the coming wave of tablets. The iPads have already severely impacted laptop sales and I think that high-end smartphones are going to be next. Microsoft may have gotten to the party just as it is beginning to break up.

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rick.merritt

10/12/2010 1:08 AM EDT

@Larry: Great point. So what is the Windows OS for x86 tablets? Msoft said Win7 for Phones is limited to a 4.3 inch screen.

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LarryM99

10/13/2010 6:55 PM EDT

The knee-jerk response in the past has always been the current version of Windows. This is also the thinking that surrounded Windows Mobile. The real competition for tablets is going to be IOS and Chrome. If Microsoft is smart they are stripping down rather than bulking up for a tablet OS. What's their answer? Good question.
Larry M.

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rick.merritt

10/12/2010 1:19 PM EDT

Qualcomm told me this morning that the first Win7 phones are based on Qualcomm QSD8250 or QSD8650 SoCs which include a gigahertz-class apps processor and separate modem block--and I added that to the story above.

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elctrnx_lyf

10/12/2010 2:41 PM EDT

Steve Balmer was seen really happy to announce the new phones based on win7. But there is no excitment from either the fans of microsoft or from any smart phone buyers regarding the win7 based phones. It would be good if microsoft come out with an innovation to kill iphone and ipad. The only incredible thing that I heard from MS was about surface computer which happened many years before.

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iniewski

10/12/2010 3:31 PM EDT

Windows Mobile 7 sounds like the last shot of MS to get into phone market...I bet it will fail, Apple and Google will win those sockets...Kris

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Frank Eory

10/12/2010 4:01 PM EDT

The comment from the analyst says a lot: "Tight Office integration is going to be a differentiator that Microsoft will have and can continue to develop upon." Oh really? Because so many business people are just aching to open Office documents on a 4.3 inch screen?

MS might have more success focusing its mobile efforts gaming and app development -- the fun stuff.

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eewiz

10/13/2010 7:23 AM EDT

@ Frank.
Exactly. People dont bother to use office in the small form factor. I am currently using HD2(wm6.5) and previously Omnia(wm6.1). Altogether I might have opened Office mobile 5-10 times in 2 years for reading some docs. I can easily manage with QuickOffice or other free doc format reader software in Android.

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