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Bob Lacovara
will99878898, I should have said this, so let me say it now. The rare earths ...
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Opinion: Japan’s three-step plan to depend less on China
Junko Yoshida
10/19/2010 4:15 PM EDT
NEW YORK – A few days after China acted to restrict export of rare-earth materials to Japan in late September, I was on my way to Japan. I already knew that this embargo was a huge headline item back in Japan, since Japan is one of the countries hardest hit by the tightening of rare earth supplies.
Without being jingoistic (yes, I originally come from Japan), I’d like to point out why this story should matter to everyone working in the global electronics industry. I see in this rare earth story a microcosm of our future – how our business and technology relationship with China could very well unfold over the next decade. The worst case scenario in dealing with China — an outcome we’ve been secretly dreading for decades —looms ever larger.
As Paul Krugman succinctly pointed out in his recent Op-ed column in The New York Times, “Couple the rare earth story with China’s behavior on other fronts — the state subsidies that help firms gain key contracts, the pressure on foreign companies to move production to China and, above all, that exchange-rate policy — and what you have is a portrait of a rogue economic superpower, unwilling to play by the rules.”
As Krugman frames it and we all wonder, the question is: What are the rest of us going to do about this?
As EE Times prepares for the cover story on the rare earth topic in the next Monday issue (Oct. 25th), what struck me as odd -- although I probably shouldn’t have been so naïve -- was an unwillingness to risk any comment at all, especially among those working in electronics companies who use rare-earth materials and/or who use components made of rare-earth materials. Clearly, these “customers” are leery of scrutiny from China or their shareholders, or both. Some anonymously admitted fear of Chinese retaliation.
Others pretend that rare earth is no big deal, because they don’t use much of it, or — if they can’t source rare-earth components from Japan — they’ll simply switch to vendors in China. So, what’s the big deal?
Well, I think there is a big deal here.
I understand that many of our readers recoil at the politicization of technology issues. But let’s face it. Sometimes our livelihoods – our engineering jobs, our economy and the future of our kids – intertwines inextricably with the policy decisions our government makes in diplomacy, economics, global trade, etc.
While in Japan, I found one clear and unafraid voice in Hiroshi Shimizu, Prof. of applied physics at Keio University and president of SIM-Drive Corp., a Keio spin-off that’s developing a new EV prototype for the mass market.
Shimizu proposed three steps Japan can take to minimize Japan’s dependence on China for rare-earth elements.
Shimizu explained that Japanese researchers, such as Masato Sagawa, led the world in the development of the Neodymium permanent magnet nearly 30 years ago. The magnet, further improved with the addition of Dysprosium, is now used in air conditioners, refrigerators, hybrid cars and EV motors, according to Shimizu. Among all rare-earth elements, Neodymium is relatively abundant. It is mined throughout the world, but at the moment, China is the main source of its supply. More problematic is Dysprosium, said Shimizu, because it’s harder to find outside China.
Next: Japan's to-do list


pixies
10/20/2010 1:31 PM EDT
It was obvious from the very beginning that this embargo thing is going to backlash on China, both politically and financially. It was a unwise move by the Chinese government. However, rare-earth mining is a high pollution industry, Chinese government has done something good to the world inadvertently: putting incentive to finding "cleaner" alternative or simply recycling the rare-earth metals through "urban mining".
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T in Az
10/20/2010 2:09 PM EDT
The beauty of technology; industrialized countries can now find solutions to situations like this, a process could be discovered that would make rare earth properties less important. The question is will financial interests promote or sabotage any solutions discovered.
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Warren
10/20/2010 2:13 PM EDT
We should stand for free and fair trade at every step, whether it involve Japanese DRAM dumping (old news I know), capricious Chinese export policies, or insincere and insufficient protection of IP rights, or certain types of American auto industry subsidies by the United States. But it's an uncomfortable topic for a technology e-zine. I'm not saying it doesn't belong, just saying that it makes me uncomfortable.
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Bob Lacovara
10/21/2010 10:02 AM EDT
I really don't understand this comment. Why should we stand for free trade, unconditionally? Warren seems to say (someone tell me I've misinterpreted, please) that even if a country engages in egregious violations of IP, blatant sub-market subsidies for an important companies products, or whatever... we should stand up and sing the free trade song? Aw, c'mon, that can't be right. I'm not sure why this is an uncomfortable topic: I'm not uncomfortable...
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Warren
10/21/2010 1:01 PM EDT
I don't think you've quite got a handle on the term "free trade." That having been said please allow me to clarify that I stated a clause of "free and fair trade"... not simply free trade. Furthermore, the examples I raised were from a range of countries that represented anti-free and -fair trade; I apologize if that was not clear. And if only as to not appear as Xenophobic I think we should be crystal clear on the principles upon which we stand and openly discuss how they should and shall apply to all countries... not just now with China.
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Bob Lacovara
10/21/2010 1:11 PM EDT
Warren, I think I understand "free trade" as opposed to various levels of protectionism, but I also see that you qualify your statement with the word "fair". Good enough; in these short notes things go missing for brevity' sake. Now, if we knew (and agreed) what "fair" might be, that would be a good thing. Still, call it xenophobic or what you will, in the case of China, we have the classic "if you sup with the devil you should use a long spoon." China has not demonstrated particularly sparkling trade practices, and if, in defense, the US (or anyone else, for that matter) erects specific trade barriers, that's fine by me. Further, I do not believe that you can treat all trading partners equally, since they do not all behave the same way. And trade policies are a time-honored tool of adjusting the behavior of your trade partners. (BTW, should anyone care to label me a xenophobe as a result of this opinion, he should feel free to do so, sticks and stones being in long supply and not always very effective anyway. ;-)
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Gopal Miglani
10/20/2010 3:45 PM EDT
This piece raises the very important issue of treating experienced engineers with respect. Hired gun CEO's have made careers out of swapping experienced engineers for lower paid younger workers, mostly in low-wage countries, with no regard to productivity. It is time to start holding management accountable for off-shoring and downsizing decisions which prove to be a bad idea in the long run. One way to do this is by replacing instant gratification stock options by dividend only stock grants with 10 year maturities. The idea is to incentivize management to work for the long-term success of the business. If a manager’s bonus is 10 years down the road she will not pack up a rare-earth processing facility and ship it to China – as was done in one case in the US.
The Chinese threat, and it is a threat, of a rogue superpower need to be met head-on at the WTO. Appeasement is not an option. Japan acted prematurely in the fishing trawler incident and had to back down. We first have to acquire Teddy Roosevelt’s “big stick”.
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Sheetal.Pandey
10/20/2010 4:08 PM EDT
Its interesting to see how China dictates terms in business.I guess all credit goes to the government there.
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Bob Lacovara
10/21/2010 10:06 AM EDT
Unfortunately, a lot of the "credit" for allowing China to have disproportionate weight in trade is also due to a side-effect of capitalism: the three most important things in business are profit, profit, and profit. As a result, companies sometimes make bad choices over where they conduct business, because the short term profit outweighs the long term profit. However, if you make enough of these decisions that mortgage your future, you eventually get killed. Unless the US Government buys your failing car company, of course...
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Sheetal.Pandey
10/23/2010 10:37 PM EDT
Very well said.
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Jun.Yang
10/20/2010 4:25 PM EDT
Well, I think it is fair to restrict export on the resources or technologies which they hold. Just like the words from Shimizu, "Shimizu proposed that Japan impose tighter export controls on high-tech technologies". Do you think it is fair to restrict technology export? These two ideas are the same.
The point is, it does need to mantain a good relationship with others.
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junko.yoshida
10/20/2010 5:00 PM EDT
I think you have a point, Jun Yang.
However, there are some basic differences between what China is trying to do here and what Shimizu is implying.
Remember, W.T.O. rules bar export quotas and export taxes in most cases. They particularly prohibit the use of export restrictions to force other countries to buy more value-added products.
That's a different argument from so-called "export" restrictions, which a lot of countries do impose on their own missiles and other military high-tech technologies -- in the name of protecting national security.
But it's been speculated that this may be a hard case for Japan to win, even if the case is successfully brought to the attention of the WTO.
It's because the WTO rules have an exception for the conservation of scarce natural resources.
(Obviously, that's the argument China is using. Premier Wen Jiabao reportedly suggested in Europe last week that "conservation of resources" was China’s goal in restricting rare earth exports.)
Another reason why this may not be a slam dunk case for Japan is because China has not acknowledged the halt in exports through any documents or public statements. The WTO requires that documentation or public statements.
So, it appears that diplomacy demands a lot more patience from all of us, before it succeeds. But of course, that doesn't mean we should give up that venue, in my humble opinion.
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Warren
10/21/2010 2:29 PM EDT
Thanks for this additional post Yoshida; very informative for me. Would it be fair to say that if China halted exports of these natural resoucres universally they are probably within their rights?
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junko.yoshida
10/21/2010 3:53 PM EDT
Thanks, Warren. Yes, that is my understanding. I am not a lawyer, but this is one of the guiding principles of the WTO rules.
"Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally
Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.
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Etmax
10/26/2010 8:21 PM EDT
This is the sad thing as it allows countries to strangle competitors. I think tariffs based on humane and political behaviour should be allowed as well as based on comparative wages. That would balance things and reduce this massive waste of resources shipping things around the globe.
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goafrit
10/20/2010 5:59 PM EDT
It matters not, Japan is an engineering powerhouse. Let the government challenge the engineers and a new way will be found. It is a great nation and China is just making a mistake. Japan will get over it. This country has brainpower and that is what matters, not rare earth materials.
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antiquus
10/20/2010 6:39 PM EDT
@goafrit: your assertion about American brainpower is incorrect. There are many that do, but not enough to carry the day when competing in the global market. Engineering creativity is a world commodity, and no longer can one assume that the 1st-world countries have the market. My colleagues in the smaller soviet-block countries, Brazil, India and East Asia are quite competent.
Observe that great strides are being made in those countries that can overcome the media's need for 10-word sound bytes and scroll-by news. If that requires a dictatorship for government, then so be it. The U.S. decline will continue until our congresspersons can stop throwing tomatoes in lieu of debate, and get on to managing the underlying needs. Don't hold your breath.
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T in Az
10/20/2010 7:01 PM EDT
I think you may have misread the comment by goafrit, the way I read it, he was only discussing Japan.
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Bob Lacovara
10/21/2010 10:09 AM EDT
I doubt that Japan wants the opportunity to develop substitutes for rare-earth magnets forced upon them. I agree, Japanese engineers, in my experience, are top drawer material. But this jingoism, true as it is, doesn't help Mabuchi produce fractional horsepower motors. Not right away, anyway.
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Warren
10/25/2010 11:42 PM EDT
This I quite agree with Bob. I've wonder if the W.T.O has expectations/requirements on how a nation goes about terminating contracts, such as notification lead times and such, [even] when it considers its natural resources are at risk. The last I heard, China had also terminated rare earth sales to the US (and Europe too I believe) which caused me to think that China had either decided to hide its "punishment" of Japan by being even in its treatment of all trading partners OR may have decided to speed up its process of limiting production and make it look to be retaliation. Eiher way it might be a violation trade agreements.
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Etmax
10/26/2010 8:12 PM EDT
I think an equally flawed thought. I believe that the best engineering comes out of the freest thinking. The more a country frees it's people's thinking more novel engineering will come out of it. That is why Japan for a long time was a follower, and why China is a follower today. Good innovative engineering is being able to think outside the box. Japan is moving in this direction but has a way to travel. China is a long way off I think.
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martinm_de
10/21/2010 2:46 AM EDT
Permanent magnets are used inside compact motors which are used inside hybrid cars: I do not see any future in electric cars, anyway.
As soon as we have the solar power infrastructure, we should generate hydrogen by electrolysis (70% eficiency already achieved) and power our cars, using normal otto motors, with hydrogen. BMW already has them.
Then, the chinese can give away their neodymium
for free: because nobody needs it any more.
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http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/poconoarmchairreview
10/21/2010 2:58 AM EDT
Well written article.
It's no surprise that engineers may not want to comment about the rare earth embargo, for fear of retaliation. After all, the embargo itself was retaliation. Retaliation is a common factor across most of humanity, and to be expected, unfortunately. It is tolerance and good will that are in short supply.
Concerning the related issue of the so-called shortage of experienced engineers, that is an easy to problem to solve, as Prof. Shimizu noted. You just have to supply better conditions and security, and experienced engineers will be there.
Finding substitutes for rare earths sounds like exciting work. We have the people to do it. We just have to retrieve them from the garbage can, where they've been tossed.
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agk
10/21/2010 4:24 AM EDT
Ther are rules and lines specified by WTO. All need to go inline and help each other. But when China wants to go away from it one needs to find out to bring china also in line which is very important. Is China does not require anything from japan.There may be some items which china needs from japan. That is the key to bring China in line now. The 3 step program is also quite possible and may take its owm tiime.
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joyhaa
10/21/2010 10:00 AM EDT
If I read correctly, Japan already reserved those "earth-supplies" silently for at least the next 50 years.
Driven by profit, many companies in China have been selling these supplies at price close to dirt to countries like Japan freely for years. I think Chinese government did the right thing this time. Not to mention how polluted they are when they're made in China.
It sickens me each time who ever "originally from Japan" wrote articles like this. While it's not taught in US classrooms, Japan is the only country that raped China which once was his teacher and never regret for that, you can never understand their soul under their super fake humble behaviors.
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Bob Lacovara
10/21/2010 10:15 AM EDT
I liked this article. I have had experience with Japanese engineers, both in the States and in Japan, and to use an idiom, "it was a blast." I would cheerfully work with the Japanese again. One thing in the article did ring a bell: the notion that engineers are uncomfortable discussing political issues and the effect of these issues on their industry. Well, too bad. Wake up. Head out of sand. Political issues have enormous effect on us and our industry, and if we, working engineers, do not understand the political issues and weigh in on the public debate, to whom will this task be left? Politicians? Oh, Lord... Lay (non-engineering) members of the public? That's fine, they have a vote, but wouldn't you believe that non-practitioners on both sides of a question would welcome the input of professionals? Whether you are inside or outside your comfort zone with the side-effects of politics, you need to take a position and state it.
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Ron Wilson, Embedded.com
10/21/2010 1:03 PM EDT
Would I believe that people on both sides would welcome the input of professionals? Well, no I wouldn't believe that.
First, engineers tend to talk in facts, conjectures, and probabilities, not in over-simplified certainties. Most non-technical people misunderstand, and find that offensive. Second, the public discourse is generally led by interests with funds at stake, and they do not welcome interference. Third, the US public is at heart deeply anti-intellectual, and profoundly distrusts anything that complicates a discussion.
For reference, see the development of public debates in other technical fields, such as evolution or climatology. Those who have attempted to add useful information to the discourse have been attacked for their trouble.
ron
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Warren
10/21/2010 1:41 PM EDT
I think you are, again, principally referring back to my comment (posted yesterday at 2:13PM EDT) in the latter portion of this post of yours. And I appreciate that you consider political discourse as an important area for technologists to weigh in. Hopefully it did not escape your attention that I did actually comment on the article and provided two opinions: 1) we should stand for free and fair trade from all countries [includes China] at every step, and 2) the topic is one [I consider] uncomfortable for a technology e-zine. The vitriol within your posts may attest to some why I have that discomfort. There is a time and a place (and a way) for political discourse; you have your thoughts on that and I have mine.
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Bob Lacovara
10/21/2010 3:29 PM EDT
Ron, I had to laugh... much of what you say is undeniable, if somewhat cynical. (Or do you prefer, "pragmatic"?) Still, engineers cannot bury their heads in the sand and say nothing, even if they are pretty much certain that it will not only be disregarded, but received with skepticism at best, derogation at worst. Not all of the public is as bad as you say, although certainly, many are. My thought is to address the ones who are willing to listen, and if they come to my viewpoint, fine. If they don't, but in actuality considered my point of view, that's pretty good too.
As an aside, you have probably observed two engineers arguing a technical issue: there may be gestures, pointing, raised voices, shouts of "for heaven's sake" and so on... all actually conducted with no real ire or antagonism. As a contrast, the Japanese engineers I have met would be appalled at such an approach... this is a cultural difference that must be learned before one argues with a Japanese client, or worse, employer...
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MicWi
10/21/2010 10:09 PM EDT
China has been observing Japan closely, be it for political system, like how to look democratic and still have a one-party rule for over 50 years, or how to become an economic powerhouse. Japan has never been a beacon of free trade, as any company trying to sell something into Japan and discussing with the MITI found out (anyone remembers the ski & Japans snow is different story?).
Chinas advantage is that they have bigger carrots than Japan in the 70ies, and they are going to use it. Take this rare earth story and oombine it with the mysterious Chinese electric cars by - forgot which year - 2013?2015? Millions on the road. Except they dont have the technology now. So what they do is force the overseas car makers to set up JVs in China with a major Chinese shareholder, and get their hands on the technology. The raw materials will stay in the country, if the car makers want to get their hands on them to make EVs, they probably have to set up shop there first, China is gong to look like a new green powerhouse, they will have their millions of EVs on the road, and dont even have to lift a finger. Not to mention all the jobs and further downstream investment this is going to generate. Its a sure winner.
I think the Western nations better wake up to that.
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BobsUrUncle
10/22/2010 10:59 AM EDT
Correction: The job shortage for experienced engineers [who can live on rice and beans] is a serious problem in the United States.
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PhilerupEE
10/22/2010 10:42 PM EDT
I am old enough to remember the history of rare earths magnets. SmCo was developed by Dr Strnat U of Dayton about late !96os. NdFeB was developed by General Motors Research Labs about late 70's 0r early. They built a sucessful Mfg Plant in Indiana & R&D in North Carolina. Not looking ahead to the future, G.M. sold both Lock Stock & Barrel to the wise Chinese Who Shipped all to China. Workers in the field knew it was a tragic mistake. Incidently PtCo (not commercially viable) was the heart of the first electric wrist-watch in 1955. The metalurgist was M Walmer who started Electron Energy in Pa.which is still the the largest US SmCo magnet producer. We used to produce 50% of world's rare earth supply until the Chinese forced every one out of business,
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junko.yoshida
10/25/2010 12:28 PM EDT
Say no more. Your institutional memory definitely makes a strong case: we let this happen despite all the advantages we seemed to have had.
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will99878898
10/26/2010 10:22 PM EDT
pay attention to the 'we' term used here.
She is trying to put someone in a league and china in another one.
This is not cold war , lady.
or 2nd world war, in which your mothercountry is human races common enemy.
China is not trying to make enemy with the rest of world in my opinion, what they want to get rich and equal with the rest, in a peaceful, gradual way.
China don't need the dog eat dog democracy right now, it will just cause chaos at this stage.
there could be some misunderstanding, but that's it.
some chinese has a long historical hatred toward japan ppl, which I think unnessary as well.
but you lady are a 'bad' example here as well.
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will99878898
10/26/2010 8:15 PM EDT
(quote from another thread)
10/26/2010 2:49 PM EDT
Japan's dream to dominate the electric car business might be finished if nobody sells them the material.
Can US car makers capitalize on this opening?
You can't make people sell things they don't want to sell, unless you send in the Japanese Imperial Army. The Chinese remember that very well.
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paul.delamusica 10/26/2010 3:04 PM EDT
Yeah, last time when FDR refused to sell them the scrap iron, they retaliated by bombing the Pearl Harber.
Wonder what their response would be this time.
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will99878898
10/26/2010 10:15 PM EDT
Japan/US etc. have long been refusing to sell all kinds of stuffs to China, tech, IP ... for simple reason to keep the imbalance ongoing.
China get bunch of such kind of 3step plans to depend less on ...s.
what a air headed article.
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Silicon_Smith
10/27/2010 1:19 AM EDT
"..what you have is a portrait of a rogue economic superpower.."
I think this is an exaggerated fear and to be frank, the world trade environment has always allowed nations to get away with what they could. When it comes to business and money, there have been no saints. Not even US and european nations!
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world_citizen
10/27/2010 6:23 AM EDT
This article is a classic example of sour grapes by someone who is being beaten at their own game.
The US forbids the export of many technologies because of "national security interest" - especially in the IT/comm space. How easily people are willing to protect and accept their own dubious practices as long as they provide benefits! For example, who ever complained about the common practice of patent trolling to throttle potential competitors? Or corporate bosses crying to Uncle Sam for preferential treatment in the name of "free trade" and bailout money to "save jobs". Or for that matter, invading and occupying foreign nations to gain control of their resources?
To attack China for excelling at the game which the US originally invented is pure hypocrisy.
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Bob Lacovara
10/27/2010 9:15 AM EDT
The first statement made by "World-citizen" (where does this person actually live, I wonder?) may or may not be true, but sheds no light on the discussion. His following paragraph is disingenuous. Why should the US not restrict export of selected technologies on the basis of national security? Is this not a sensible action? Otherwise, we might as well sell engineering documents on ICBMs to say, North Korea and Iraq, paragons of human rights. That would be a poor idea, to my mind. Further: "Who has ever complained, for example, about bailout money to 'save jobs'?" Well, many of us have complained bitterly about bailing out GM, and similar government handouts to incompetent companies. You will see evidence of this in about a week or so. Lastly, Mr. World Citizen, can you name three countries that the US has invaded and occupied in order to control their resources? I doubt it: I can't wait to hear who these poor countries are. Lastly, the US hardly invented dirty tricks that the poor naive Chinese mistakenly adopted: the Chinese were up to the dirty tricks of an empire before Columbus arrived in North America.
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will99878898
10/28/2010 6:56 AM EDT
Bob,
China get good national security reasons to forbid export of Rare Earth as well. It's been used in ICBMs, bombs etc.
China don't want to see a japan/us bomb with chinese rare earth in it while they are treating china as an enemy.
understand?
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Bob Lacovara
10/28/2010 8:22 AM EDT
will99878898, I should have said this, so let me say it now. The rare earths belong to China, therefore, if they don't want to sell them, that is their right. Perhaps the reason is to make it harder for the US or Japan or anyone else to use the materials in weapons to be used against China, but it doesn't matter. The rare earth material is China's, therefore, they decide what happens to it. By the way, I doubt that China is worried about an attack from the US... I cannot think of anything less likely.
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