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Update: AMD on core wars and beyond
Rick Merritt
11/9/2010 8:35 AM EST
SUNNYVALE, Calif. – Advanced Micro Devices has started shipping its Fusion processors that merge graphics and x86 cores on a single die. The company also rolled out at its annual analyst day its 2012 road map which includes 20-core server processors.
But the x86 core wars could end by 2013, predicted AMD fellow Chuck Moore told EE Times.
Clock rates of multicore processors are already trending down as engineers split the available power budget among more cores. Somewhere just north of 20 cores per chip, data rates will slow to something approaching 2 GHz and the core wars will end.
The next big step will be integrating I/O such as Ethernet into system-on-chip processors. In addition, both server and client systems will need these processors to be stacked with DRAM die to get optimal memory bandwidth and performance, Moore said.
AMD started shipping today its first production Fusion chips, said Rick Bergman, AMD's general manager of products. The 18W Zacate and 9W Ontario use one or two of AMD's new Bobcat cores and a DirectX 11 GPU core to serve a variety of desktops and notebooks.
The chips will enable systems with more than ten hours battery life show up in systems at CES in January, Bergman said.
The Llano processor which will use four older generation cores and a DX11 GPU will ship by June. Bergman showed it simultaneously running an HD video and DX11 game.
Bergman also demoed Zambezi, AMD's high-end desktop processor for 2011. The chip uses four or eight of AMD's new Bulldozer cores and a next-generation GPU called Cayman.
"This will be the system to have in 2011," Bergman said.
On the server road map, AMD will ship in 2011 Interlagos with eight to 16 Bulldozer cores, 4x Hypertransport and four DDR3 channels. In 2012 it plans Terramar, a 32nm server chip with up to 20 Bulldozer cores.

Zacate and Ontario are AMD's first Fusion chips.


DF
11/9/2010 2:56 PM EST
What I'm itching to know is what the performance of the 9W 1.0GHz dual-core Ontario is versus Atom. If it's a lot faster, then we might have quite the 10" netbook platform on our hands.
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rick.merritt
11/9/2010 3:49 PM EST
AMD may sit on performance numbers until systems ship at CES, but I ask
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rick.merritt
11/9/2010 4:03 PM EST
OK, AMD won't give benchmarks until Jan. launch but would say Zacate up to 80 to 90 GFlops, if that is meaningful.
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Robotics Developer
11/10/2010 3:34 PM EST
I would be curious to know if there is any interest in using graphic processors for general purpose processing. It would seem to me that this would be an interesting marriage that might avoid the hybrid approach currently being pursued. I must confess to not having tried to use a GPU as a general purpose processor but in an earlier life I worked with array processors. The array processors could do general work (and often did) the difference was the compiler. Given the right compiler a Graphics Engine could perform as a general purpose computer, could the next big step forward not be hardware but software?
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Random Roman
11/11/2010 4:51 AM EST
Well, there are a lot of workloads, where traditional superscalars beats gpu's. So it would be more practical to design such a general-purpose compiler for a cpu/gpu heterogeneous system. Actually this is what OpenCL is made for.
And there is another important point. Gpu-like architecture tuned for general purpose workloads would be less effective for graphics.
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hm
11/12/2010 12:09 AM EST
How effective are Windows and Linux to exploit the real power this muliti core processors? If we were to write new applications, how effectively is it allowed by OS to employ many processors? Is it possible to quantify improvement in speed of application with increase in number of processors?
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eewiz
11/29/2010 1:51 AM EST
20Core CPU !! I want to buy one of these for my Desktop :) BTW IMO AMD is too late to the party with 9W Ontario chip. The netbook market is already spiraling down.
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