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KB3001

12/8/2010 10:51 AM EST

Would not 3D allow for an extra degree of feedom for isolation?

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docdivakar

12/6/2010 11:33 PM EST

@Charles.Desassure: I agree, I did not find anything that we don't know already ...

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CTO confirms IBM's PCM expectations

Peter Clarke

11/29/2010 6:43 AM EST

IBM active in PCM at IEDM


IBM is continuing to conduct its own research and has three papers coming up at the International Electron Devices Meeting to be held in San Francisco, Calif. Dec. 6 to 8.

One paper, identified by IEDM session number 29.4, discusses the voltage polarity effects in GST-based phase-change memory while a second (28.6) looks at the impact of hole-induced electromigration on the cycling endurance of PCM. The third paper (29.5) discusses noise in multibit PCM memory cells and reports a bit error rate of 1 in 10^4 with a three-bit memory cell.

"We do have IBM research into PCM. And we do have flash today. NAND flash should make progress into the consumer space and is making tracks in the server space," said Menon. "And then there is a lot of other technologies including MRAM and a bit further out IBM thinks magnetic race-track memory, there's ferroelectric and so on. And we are very bullish about PCM in next three to five years time frame and then magnetic race-track memory in the longer term."

In terms of other research topics to help PCM make progress Menon said IBM is working on materials, on 3-D packaging and the implications of that for memory cell structure. "We do believe PCM does have the ability to scale beyond where flash can scale to. I would say flash will begin to struggle below 22-nm."





resistion

11/29/2010 7:41 AM EST

I am curious about IBM's take on its other (possibly bigger) darling, MRAM. Why no mention or show of support there?

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peter.clarke

11/29/2010 7:45 AM EST

Mainly because I was asking Jai Menon about phase-change memory in the light of his recent reported comments (see foot of article).

Menon did say that IBM thinks magnetic "race-track" memory could be successfully a bit further out.

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Volatile Memory

11/29/2010 9:38 AM EST

Interesting. So it took 10 years for Micron to publicly admit in 2004 that PCM does not scale, after having signed an exclusive, royalty-bearing license to the phase-change memory patents in 1994. Then it took 10 years for Intel/STM/Numomyx to admit that PCM does not scale (a tacit admission, by failure to deliver the promised 45-nm chip in the beginning of this year). Samsung, having failed to produce the promised cell phone with phase-change memory by June 30 this year, should be next.

So, when will IBM admit that PCM does not scale? Looks like, in 2015, 10 years after that ill-fated "joint research initiative to explore the potential of a new form of computer memory technology called phase-change memory."

You can't make this up. And somebody at IBM is DEFINITELY not doing his/her job.

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iniewski

11/29/2010 2:14 PM EST

I remain being skeptical here, I just don't see PCM scaling better than flash...working in a semiconductor industry for several years I have seen hundreds of cases when the company publicly talks about one technology but quietly pursues something different internally...Kris

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Charles.Desassure

11/30/2010 7:03 PM EST



Thanks for this article. I have read this article over and over again and I am still wondering why Peter Clarke interviewed Jai Menon? Jai Menon is not saying anything that we don’t already know. We know that IBM is working on different projects. We need to ask IBM hard-hitting questions so we can know what they are during and where they are going? When a company is talking about three to five years on a project, to me; that sounds like you have more research to do and that is not "very bullish". But I am happy that Jai Menon is working on this exciting project.

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resistion

11/30/2010 7:56 PM EST

They can't be serious about both pcm and racetrack as pcm replacement!

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greenpattern

12/1/2010 3:12 PM EST

The trouble with PCM and MRAM cells is that when they are too close together there is the crosstalk from heating or magnetic field when writing is performed.

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greenpattern

12/1/2010 3:36 PM EST

I suspect same type of crosstalk effect occurs for charge stored on neighboring floating gate in flash.

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docdivakar

12/6/2010 11:33 PM EST

@Charles.Desassure: I agree, I did not find anything that we don't know already about PCM & PRAMs available in public domain.

The thermal cross talk is a problem in both 2D and 3D applications, the latter being the worse. The thermal coupling through the substrate between junctions. Thinning the substrates and insulating layers may mitigate this to some extent but that is a change for the worse in 3D stacking.

@iniewski: I hear you, I don't see how PCM can scale better than flash; heating chalcogenide will put space restrictions on scaling. The alternative is worse, if switching rates are needed less than 5ns, there is a real possibility of thermal avalanche mode with scaling.

If IBM is 3 to 5 years away from commercializing this technology, they sure have their work cut out for them. Samsung may beat them to the punch!

Dr. MP Divakar

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