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Ramanathan.G
Sounds interesting. HDD has serious reliability issue due to the mechanical ...
luizsalomon
Come on!!! Most of us here are engineers and we now that SSD can hold a certain ...
Intel launches solid-state drive
Peter Clarke
12/30/2010 9:21 AM EST
LONDON – Intel Corp. has introduced to the market a solid-state drive (SSD) that offers 40- and 80-Gbyte memory capacity in a format measuring 51-mm by 30-mm and only 5-mm deep. The unit weighs 10 grams.
The memory contains 34-nm NAND flash memory, is available in an m-SATA form factor and is intended for use in dual-drive notebooks, single-drive tablets and embedded industrial or military applications. When paired with a high-capacity magnetic disk drive in a dual-drive system, the Intel SSD 310 can improve overall PC system performance by up to 60 percent, Intel claimed.
The Intel SSD 310 supports SATA signals over a PCI Express (PCIe) mini-connector for on-board, compact storage in single-drive netbooks, tablets or handheld devices.
The Intel SSD 310 is priced at $99 for the 40-Gbyte capacity and $179 for the 80-Gbyte version, both in 1,000-unit quantities.
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Sanjib.Acharya
12/30/2010 12:40 PM EST
If I am getting this right, a few days back I read that Samsung also had launched SSD models built with consumer-class NAND flash. The new SSDs from Samsung have capacities of 100GB, 200GB and 400GB. Are they based on similar technology used by Intel? Has anyone made techno-commercial comparison between these SSD products from Samsung and Intel?
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JMWilliams
12/30/2010 1:34 PM EST
This kind of drive will be OK for most casual users, but not for long-term, archival use: Flash or other electric-field storage designs imply that the bits stored are defined as 'i' or '0' by the strength or polarity of an electric field.
This means that there is a nonminimal potential difference involved. Over time, by design imperfection or quantum tunnelling, the electrons will leak away, reducing the bit potentials to intermediate states. By contrast, magnetic media store both logic levels in domain configurations which are at energy minima. The bits don't decay except over archeological time intervals.
Intel should publish the expected lifetime of data stored on these drives. One might guess that data on a solid-state, nonmagnetic drive would last at least ten, maybe 20, years -- but, who knows?
You would not want to store birth certificate images or family photo images on a solid-state drive. For example, I have a print of one of my great uncle's baptismal photos, from the 1890's -- I would expect that a copy on my hard drive should last at least a century, so that I could pass it down for generations.
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pixies
1/4/2011 11:27 AM EST
I don't think magnetic media last over archeological time especially. It has been imaged with MFM that domain walls migrate even at room temperature. Anyway, how long a magnetic drive last is inconsequential since the electronic parts, the mechanical parts, and control software will not be able to last a 100 year anyway. I have been contemplating this question recently, the only sure way to pass your photos to the grandchildren is still to print them out then put them in a fireproof box.
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Dave.Dykstra
12/30/2010 3:41 PM EST
And, of course, that hard drive has some mechanical parts that probably won't last that 10 or 20 years either.
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kinnar
12/31/2010 4:23 AM EST
This is a great innovative product from Intel, but the interface and the price is somewhat specific, it needs to be USB Option and price should be compatible with Magnetic Drive.
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resistion
12/31/2010 7:11 AM EST
Their dual-drive selling point looks weak.w
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resistion
12/31/2010 11:23 AM EST
"When paired with a high-capacity magnetic disk drive in a dual-drive system, the Intel SSD 310 can improve overall PC system performance by up to 60 percent, Intel claimed." Presumably, if the SSD were superior the performance would be much much more than 100 percent better.
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David Ashton
1/1/2011 11:54 PM EST
My understanding is that you use the SSD for the OS, for fast booting and quick immediate access stuff, and the magnetic drive for higher capacity data storage. The SSDs are much faster than mag drives but not large capacity. Some friends of mine have tried this and they reckon it works for them. 60% is a pretty good improvement I would say? Anyone with more knowledge care to comment further?
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goafrit
12/31/2010 10:35 AM EST
Intel seems to be the only US major tech firm that is innovating. Good scores from all angles.
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resistion
12/31/2010 11:18 AM EST
That's too harsh on US, no? IBM? AMD? Micron? Apple?
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Silicon_Smith
12/31/2010 2:47 PM EST
Intel is innovating? Had it been innovating, it would not have been pushed to go on a shopping spree for players in the mobile domain. They are losing the game just because they were low on innovation and thinking ahead.
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Himanshu_Gupta
12/31/2010 12:30 PM EST
Maybe Apple will replace the HDs with these SSDs as it will only add 10% more cost to the existing price of Macbooks.
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Warren
12/31/2010 3:13 PM EST
It will be interesting to see if Apple makes such a change in the next year or so.
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sranje
12/31/2010 7:11 PM EST
Does anybody know how are these NAND flash chips packaged? What package type, how many dies in a package? What else (controller?) might be in a package? Intel is a formidable player and clearly committed to SSD drives. Many thanks in advance and Happy New Year to us all !!
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hm
1/1/2011 12:01 PM EST
New Apple MacBookAir already uses flash drive. Only to save space they have not used disk enclosure. They are available in 64GB and 128GB configuration. As per Apple, their future products will be mainly based on Flash SDD.
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Neo1
1/2/2011 10:58 PM EST
Excellent, I would say. It adds more punch to the portable computing devices. However it still needs to be determined how widespread that pcie interface will be supported by vendors.
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BalaLak
1/2/2011 11:27 PM EST
@JMWilliams: NAND flash has its own read/write limitations and so will need to have a lot more space as buffer, just like the hard disks do, but for a different reason. NAND flash needs bad block management and wear leveling and this affects the throughput. In regular PCs, this is not a big deal. But, if you want to keep data safe for decades, no hard disk is good enough either. I guess keeping it online (gmail?) is a better bet.
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selinz
1/3/2011 2:28 PM EST
It's hard for me to imagine paying that much of an overhead for a flash drive. It seems as though my computers are pleny fast enough for pretty much anything I do, particularly if you got your DRAM loaded up to 8 or 16 gigs.
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Baolt
1/3/2011 7:30 PM EST
Who would use a laptop/Pad more than 5 years or even 10 years? If id keep my first toshiba running i guess id be really really patient guy or not? :)
SSDs are digital based, logic based structures, of course have problem of loosing some data (bits) by time, but with great respond speed, would let OS to boot up in a glance. If someone would like to store data, wait up cloud is almost here, or go for Blu-rays they also offer much reliable storage.
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iniewski
1/4/2011 11:57 AM EST
Baolt: I agree. Most people I know use laptop for less than 5 years. Personally I get a new one once every two years. Unless you are vigilant about what software you are installing on your machine no PC will be effectively useful after 5/10 years. The replacement cost will be very low and the cost of making the old machine work too high...Kris
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ReneCardenas
1/4/2011 8:25 PM EST
I have over a dozen laptops and a handful of desktops. Yes, most laptops don't age well, starting with battery wear, then hard drive crashes, panel bad pixels and so on. My estimate that every 3 to 5 years most users replace their main computer has been accurate. However, with the masses moving to super phones this issue is going to be diluted some more.
Boot time was a concern in early systems due to self test and other legacy starting enumeration. However, with portable devices been less flexible those issues will fade to a minimum and little relevance when comparing netbooks vs. super tablets. IMHO.
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SEofLC
1/5/2011 3:15 PM EST
10 grams? Really? Or did someone loose a significant digit?
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SEofLC
1/5/2011 3:35 PM EST
Nevermind... 4 dimes or 2 nickles = 9 grams.
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sharps_eng
1/6/2011 5:52 AM EST
@SEofLC - now if that doesn't highlight the need for a handy international weight reference for comparison...
I'd say 10gm is nearly a third of an ounce... 150 drips of water... can anyone think of a handy electronics-based object to use as a an internationally available weight reference, other than the gramme itself?
Luckily I know the phrase 'nickelled and dimed to death' but can your car 'turn on a sixpence'?
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luizsalomon
1/6/2011 11:55 AM EST
Come on!!! Most of us here are engineers and we now that SSD can hold a certain amount of data, for long enough. The only problem is that it can't cycle - erases and writes. That's why you put an OS into the SSD and have all the swaps, temps, virtual, backups and everything that cycles a lot, on a magnetic thing. That's it.
Talking about capacity, this issue should be brought back in another 5 years. I have a hard drive that's 5 years old and has only 20GB. Moore's Law!!!! Now, go back to work!
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Ramanathan.G
7/17/2011 12:37 AM EDT
Sounds interesting. HDD has serious reliability issue due to the mechanical parts.
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