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lifewingmate
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iniewski
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IEEE kicks off cloud standards efforts
Rick Merritt
4/4/2011 12:01 AM EDT
SAN JOSE, Calif. – The IEEE is kicking off two efforts to ease the take off of cloud computing, a design guide and a standard for interoperable cloud services. The work marks the first time a formal standards organization has come to grips with issues in cloud services, IEEE claims.
Cloud services could reshape the future of computing, a potential that sparked academics to call for cloud computing standards in a paper in 2009. In separate efforts, Intel and Hewlett-Packard are ramping up significant cloud programs, and cloud services are being adopted broadly by end users including the U.S. government.
The IEEE P2301 will produce a guide for cloud portability and interoperability profiles. It aims to provide a single reference source for work done or in-progress at various industry groups on topics such as cloud applications, portability, management, interfaces, file formats and operating conventions.
The guide could be used both by cloud service providers and users procuring services or systems. "It's hard for companies to find any technical specs to procure against for cloud services," said David Bernstein, who chairs IEEE P2301 and is a group chief technology officer for software in Silicon Valley for Huawei (Shenzhen, China).
Bernstein co-authored at least six papers in the last two years on cloud computing including one titled Blueprint for the Intercloud. The concept of interoperability between cloud services—also referred to as the Intercloud--is the subject for P2302, the other IEEE working group Bernstein chairs.
P2302 will try to define a range of standards to ensure interoperability between cloud services. They may include areas such as use of name space, trust infrastructure, communications protocols (such as HTTP, SIP or XMPP), resource directories and exchange topology.
The result, according to the IEEE, could be a set of specifications that bring interoperability to cloud services just as naming and routing protocols did for the Internet and Signaling System 7 did for telephony. Although the work is initially focused on high-level software constructs, long term it could have implications for system and silicon hardware design, said Bernstein.
"This whole notion of a global intercloud will have sweeping implications for how these systems are created, and some of these capabilities may find their way into hardware, but it's too soon to tell," he said.
Indeed, the two IEEE work groups have not yet been formed. "We have formed contacts with more than 200 people pretty much around the globe saying they are interested as we have talked about these groups at IEEE events and over email," he said.
The interest is coming from a broad range of server, communications and storage systems makers as well as software companies and service providers, he added. Bernstein said he is hopeful the efforts "will have a solid time line and deliverables this year, and I am sure we will be working hard well into next year."


yalanand
4/4/2011 6:02 AM EDT
How will the interoperability between cloud services help the end user ?
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LarryM99
4/4/2011 11:23 AM EDT
I believe that what they are trying to standardize is the interface between the user and the cloud services. If you think about it as the interchangeability of the interfaces then it makes more sense. Build one app or business process to those standards and attach it to the service provider of your choice.
Larry M.
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bboyle
4/4/2011 2:13 PM EDT
Re LarryM99:
Interfaces are the critical factor. Standardizing them will allow end-user applications to migrate from provider to provider with (hopefully) minimal pain and effort. That will enhance the entire cloud market because of competitive pressures.
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iniewski
4/4/2011 7:47 PM EDT
How large is cloud computing business? Kris
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LarryM99
4/5/2011 12:20 PM EDT
The measurements tend to be all over the map, but they are all pretty big. Current numbers are in the high 3-digit millions and most estimates are for high single digit billions in the next couple of years.
Larry M.
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chanj
4/4/2011 9:13 PM EDT
Interoperability includes compliance of SIP, the trusted certificate, the communication among different servers(aka resources). If guidelines are provided, cloud space will grow with a clearer direction. I will have to look for the papers. Any further information is welcomed.
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iniewski
4/5/2011 12:42 PM EDT
thank you Larry...what people think about Amazon service of buying your music from the cloud? once purchased you can listen to it from any Internet connected device in the world...Kris
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Duane Benson
4/5/2011 12:52 PM EDT
Is this the right time to be doing this? A few years ago, when cloud computing was emerging would have made sense, as would a few years from now when consolidation is taking place.
Right now seem like it will be more of an exercise in futility. There is a lot of commercial momentum between different players. I suspect competition will drive the formats / protocols and conventions far more than could a standards group. I think it's just poor timing for this.
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iniewski
4/5/2011 1:57 PM EDT
Duane, agree, timing is poor...but this is typical for IEEE, frequently they try to introduce standards too late, often they just go with what the market has already accepted...Kris
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lifewingmate
4/12/2011 11:32 PM EDT
I'm glad to see that IEEE is at least formalizing this and documenting the conversations. I agree with Duane that technology at the speed of business is the only way to compete, but from a learning perspective, it is critical to pin down standards to grow development and hopefully make it more efficient. I agree with Duane that the demand and competition will drive the growth, but the time those interested in cloud computing standards will allow the most innovative minds to examine critical scalability factors: Theory and design implications informing practice and practice confirming theory...seems scientifically sound.
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