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yalanand

6/4/2011 1:45 AM EDT

Saturated..I am not sure. I feel Windows + Nokia + Skype works in favour of ...

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t.alex

5/28/2011 5:58 AM EDT

I think the dalvik vm is what makes android really difference from other mobile ...

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Mixed signals for MeeGo at dev con

Rick Merritt

5/23/2011 5:54 PM EDT

SAN JOSE, Calif. – About 1,200 developers signed up for this week's MeeGo conference on Intel's mobile Linux variant, but the future of the OS is unclear.

It's "a particularly awkward time" for the MeeGo community because the software is ready but no mainstream products using it have shipped yet, said Dawn Foster, a MeeGo community organizer at Intel. "A lot of companies are working on bringing devices to market, but they are not willing to talk about them yet," she said in a talk streamed live from the event.

"People aren’t willing to spend a lot of time learning a new SDK and APIs when there aren’t a lot of devices in the market," she added.

Intel started work on a mobile Linux variant called Moblin about two years ago. When it struck a partnership to develop smartphones with Nokia, the two companies merged their separate mobile Linux environments and renamed it MeeGo.

However, Nokia's new chief executive decided earlier this year to make Microsoft Windows Phone the company's primary smartphone platform, ending work with Intel. In the meantime, Intel turned over management of MeeGo to the Linux Foundation. Separately, an industry group defining in-vehicle infotainment (IVI) standards for cars adopted MeeGo.

"The handset market is saturated, so I don’t think MeeGo can make a significant impact on smartphones and tablets," said Michael Anderson, chief technology officer at consulting firm PTR Group, in a talk on MeeGo at the Embedded Systems Conference in April.

MeeGo could see significant penetration in IVI, however with companies such as Bosch and others expected to incorporate MeeGo into 2012-13 products, Anderson said.

Foster said about 23,000 people have signed up to participate in the online MeeGo community, however only about 800-1,000 are active on a monthly basis. The MeeGo community kicked off in October an IVI working group to hear requirements from automotive companies.

More recently it launched handset and smart TV working groups, and is considering working groups for netbooks and tablets. MeeGo backers see the work groups as one of their best tools for engaging vendors and helping drive the OS into shipping products, Foster said.

Separately, proponents are gearing up a program to get MeeGo hardware in the hands of developers. The group has about 150 XO notebooks from the One Laptop Per Child program and a commitment to one or two Panda boards per month from Texas Instruments. Developers must describe their project in an online form to apply for the hardware.

Developers have lacked hardware for testing MeeGo apps and code, especially for the IVI sector, said one MeeGo participant.

MeeGo has a handful of advantages over Google Android, by far the leading version of mobile Linux to date. The MeeGo environment is more similar to straight Linux than Android which uses the Dalvik virtual machine, Anderson said.

Developers can use popular languages such as Python with MeeGo, but not with Android. In addition, anyone willing to pay a $99 annual membership to the Linux Foundation has an equal vote on MeeGo futures. By contrast, Android is perceived as being run mainly by large handset makers, Anderson said.





rick.merritt

5/23/2011 6:13 PM EDT

Will you use MeeGo? Why or why not?

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goafrit

5/24/2011 9:49 AM EDT

I will not use it because it is not needed. I am hooked to Android and they better find a way to let is work with it. MeeGo is coming late and they should sell that stuff off

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t.alex

5/28/2011 5:58 AM EDT

I think the dalvik vm is what makes android really difference from other mobile linux OS. App developement is much cleaner without needing to know a host of things on the linux system.

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chanj

5/23/2011 8:20 PM EDT

In general, I agree the assessment that the mobile phone market is congested. Tablet market seems to be a viable market for MeeGo. Android is trying yet it couldn't stop the momentum of iPad. The chance of either one of the OS bridging into tablet market will likely rely on 6 factors.
1) Amount of apps and uniqueness of apps.
2) Hardware features.
3) Ease of product prototyping and development.
4) Overall performance including touchscreen responsiveness.
5) CPUs supported.
6) Human technology.

There may be more factors such as form factor and such. However, the key is whether the OS can bring more than the competitor's OS to customer and how the features are delivered.

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eewiz

5/24/2011 8:40 AM EDT

Chances look bleak for MeeGo to be successful in mobile/tablet markets. MeeGo best bet now is to modify the OS with some Virtualization engine, that every Android app can be run on it without any changes. After all both are Linux variants.

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Warren

5/24/2011 12:09 PM EDT

Actually, this is an interesting comment... the suggestion seems something that is possibly quite reasonable... and the reverse something Android poorly able to do; it doesn't seem to even virtualize itself all ther well.

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Warren

5/24/2011 12:24 PM EDT

"The handset market is saturated".... So Mr. Anderson is boldly predicting Win7 will die soon and it's only IOS or Android from here on out?

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Taichichuan

5/24/2011 9:44 PM EDT

Well, it depends on your definition of success. Recall that while Android and IOS are major players, the Blackberry O/S, Symbian and Windows Phone 7 are also in the market. Hence the comment about saturation. There just isn't much space to maneuver in the handset market. But, since Windows Phone 7 only controls 7.7% of the current market in the U.S., one does have to question it's viability in the long term. For tablets, IOS, Android and RIM's QNX seem to be players and WinPhone 7 appears to be a no-show. Maybe MeeGo can make a play here, but unless we start seeing products soon, it may be too little, too late.

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Tunrayo

5/25/2011 10:01 AM EDT

I feel in iOS and Android will be the major players in the long run. I am not sure of Apple and Google's plan for low-end phones though. So I see Symbian still dominating the low-end phone market

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yalanand

6/4/2011 1:45 AM EDT

Saturated..I am not sure. I feel Windows + Nokia + Skype works in favour of win-Nokia mobile

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prabhakar_deosthali

5/25/2011 2:05 AM EDT

Instead of trying to establish itself as a MeeToo player in the smart phones and tablets market, MeeGoo community should explore the possibilities of entering a totally virgin market and become a niche player. Maybe in the new world of 'Internet of Things'?

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ReneCardenas

5/25/2011 9:51 AM EDT

Handsets may be a large chunk, but is not the only game in town for embedded computing, there are plenty of major appliances and automotive that seek performance, lowest power and cost. So I see room for this and many other incarnations of OS applications.

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