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Netteligent

11/12/2011 3:24 AM EST

Market downturn is a blessing in disguise. Qualcomm moving to a right direction. ...

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ManasK.RayChaudhuri

8/9/2011 12:39 AM EDT

Yes,surely.

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Atheros: 5, not 60 GHz is real future of Wi-Fi

Rick Merritt

8/2/2011 7:16 PM EDT

SAN JOSE, Calif. – The top technologist of Qualcomm Atheros scoped out the future of Wi-Fi and gave comments on the outlook for Windows 8 systems using ARM processors at a briefing here.

The emerging IEEE 802.11ac standard for delivering gigabit/speeds over 5 GHz represents the future of mainstream Wi-Fi, said William McFarland, vice president of technology for the Wi-Fi division of the cellular chip maker. The .11ad 60 GHz standard will play a complementary but more limited role, and beyond that the future is unclear, he said.

"There are not too many [wireless design tools] left on the table" beyond what the .11ac and .11ad standards are adopting, McFarland said. "We haven't implemented multiple-access OFDMA or multi-user uplink yet, but that's very difficult to do," he added.

Sample chips for the 5 GHz 802.11ac and the 60 GHz 802.11ad standards should emerge late this year with systems products following late next year.

The .11ac standard adopts multiuser MIMO and 256 QAM over 5 GHz. The techniques help it deliver Gbit/s speeds over existing Wi-Fi ranges when using 80 MHz of bandwidth and at least three antennas.

"It will be a big splash--we will make it a big splash," said McFarland.

The 60 GHz .11ad standard could support up to 7 Gbits/s thanks to even wider channels, but will be limited to use within a room due to difficulty of propagating the 60 GHz signals.

The .11ac products will eventually replace .11n products. The 60 GHz products will open up new applications such as high-speed video transfers within a room, he said.

"We feel the two systems are quite different and not really competitive with each other," he added. Ultimately, many modules will support both standards, he said.

At ISSCC in January, engineers debated the relative merits of the 5 and 60 GHz approaches. Some noted China does not have the 80 MHz bands at 5 GHz needed to deliver the .11ac Gbit/s rates.

Separately, McFarland said Qualcomm is ahead of the pack of companies supporting Microsoft's Windows 8 on ARM processors.

The company created "a substantial team" to support Windows 8 on its Snapdragon processors and "is very much in the lead for getting Windows 8 running on top of ARM," McFarland said. "One of the first platforms for big Windows on ARM will be Snapdragon," he said.

Microsoft is said to be working on four versions of Windows 8--one each for the x86, Snapdragon, Nvidia's Tegra and Texas Instruments' Omap processor. The initial ARM-based systems are expected to be mainly tablets, although some may deliver notebooks as well.

Qualcomm "wants to supply all the silicon in one of those platforms over time even the display," said McFarland, pointing to the company's Mirasol group.

"Today the focus is just getting out a basic offering, but we are working on getting this bundle put together in a nicer way," McFarland said. "Once that’s in control, we can look more broadly at ways to differentiate platforms," he added.

Atheros has long been supplying Wi-Fi chips to PC makers, a new customer base for the cellular chip maker.





Frank Eory

8/3/2011 1:57 AM EDT

60 GHz carrier, 7 Gbps? That is seriously off the hook. Will the chip cost 3 bucks, so the router retails for $50 or $60? Probably not anytime soon...but still, this is very cool stuff.

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t.alex

8/3/2011 9:59 AM EDT

Will the distance/range be reduced?

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y_sasaki

8/3/2011 8:15 PM EDT

I think the author tried to say "7GHz" as available unlicensed bandwidth in 60GHz.

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pcsalex

8/5/2011 8:18 PM EDT

Actually 60GH is there just to replace the HDMI cables

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GREAT-Terry

8/3/2011 4:12 AM EDT

It is interesting to see WiFi running at such high frequency - 60GHz! I think it is only good for steaming video signal from your TV to speaker, but you just can't walk out the room as the signal will be totally dead! BTW, will there be any trouble for Microsoft to support 4 different processors with its Window 8?

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wwward

8/5/2011 2:03 PM EDT

They poorly support one processor now!

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rick.merritt

8/3/2011 11:59 AM EDT

@ t.alex: McFarland said the .11ac 5 GHz spec offering 1 Gbit/s will support nexisting Wi-Fi ranges.

@ Great-Terry: I expect Msoft and its partners have their hands full right now, and I want to tell more of this story as soon as I can.

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t.alex

8/4/2011 10:43 AM EDT

The article is talking about 80Mhz band. Will this overlap the current 20mhz bands of WiFi?

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PJames

8/4/2011 7:02 PM EDT

Yes

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ManasK.RayChaudhuri

8/9/2011 12:39 AM EDT

Yes,surely.

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DickH

8/3/2011 6:32 PM EDT

60 GHz? going back a bit (25 years) when we were looking into building a mm-wave radar. I seem to remember there's a strong absorption band there due to oxygen, if it's not already raining! Hope they don't intend to go through more than a few feet of air at 40-60 dB/m...

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Howlinyote

8/4/2011 2:10 AM EDT

Actually its about 16 dB/km so for short range its not really a big issue. There are companies doing P2P links for backhaul at 60Ghz over .5 to 1 km distances today. The line of site issues are more challenging at 60 GHz.

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Code Monkey

8/5/2011 5:46 PM EDT

That's the point. So there's less interference between installations and far fewer of your neighbors can put up a dish or yagi and tap into your network.

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rick.merritt

8/3/2011 10:56 PM EDT

The .11ad folks hope to get 6-7 Gbits/second out of the technology

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chanj

8/4/2011 2:13 PM EDT

7Gbps will be on demand when the next generation HDTV is out. 60GHz band will like serve a limited range like the article has mentioned.

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Netteligent

11/12/2011 3:24 AM EST

Market downturn is a blessing in disguise. Qualcomm moving to a right direction. Congratulation Qualcomm and bright future ahead for turining a gigantic mothership. There are still more challenges and hard works ahead but stay focus and prepare for the next 10 years.

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