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Intel: Android on x86 phones TK in 2012
Rick Merritt
9/13/2011 1:47 PM EDT
The annual IDF event here comes as Microsoft reveals first details of Windows 8 in a separate event in Anaheim, including news about the first versions of Windows to run on ARM processors.
"From my perspective nothing has changed--you always have to have the best chips to win," said Otellini. "Microsoft could energize the tablet market [with Win 8], and the value of the 6 million apps [on x86] is pretty substantial--I don’t think end users will walk away from that, so I like our chances," he said.
Separately, Intel has completed the design of Haswell, a next generation notebook chip expected to power 2013-class ultrabooks, PC notebooks that are thin and light like the Apple Mac Air. Intel will hold public session here on a new system-level power management framework for components used in Haswell-based ultrabooks.
Otellini promises Haswell systems will have a 20x reduction in power consumption thanks to the new framework. The systems should last ten days in standby mode on a single charge, he said.
Intel also is working on a handful of apps to let smartphones, TVs and PCs share data. The first of the apps, called Pair and Share, will be available in OEM systems this year.
Otellini also announced Intel's McAffe division will ship later this year a new product called Deep Safe that can use a combination of McAfee software and Intel processor hardware to detect and eliminate previously unidentified malware rootkits.
In other news, an Intel researcher showed a tech demo of a Pentium-class system running off a postage-stamp sized solar cell. Intel will give more details on the lab project in a Thursday keynote.
Finally, Otellini said Intel "already has line of sight on our 14nm process technology, and we are tooling our factories for it 2013."
The process is initially expected to use existing 193nm immersion lithograpohy. Extreme ultraviolet systems are still in an early development stage with throughput far below commercial needs.
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markhahn
9/13/2011 4:50 PM EDT
Intel wanting into the phone market is fine, but we need to ask: what's the point? what unique value does Intel bring?
Intel fabs are good, but Intel doesn't produce anything that beats existing phone chips in performance/watt. the traditional strength of x86 (ecosystem, network effects) is basically irrelevant as well.
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chipmonk
9/14/2011 3:14 PM EDT
If Intel fabs can leapfrog 2 - 3 fab nodes ahead of TSMC then they could provide SoCs with far more functions and still lot less leakage / power consumption. But to take full advantage of those chips Intel would also have to provide operating systems & apps ( which Google might not support as they have a bigger stake in Droid to run ARM based system ). Perhaps Intel would grow McAfee into a provider of virus proof Op Sys. Even with all that Wintel type market dominance and margins of yore will be pretty difficult in the Smart Phone biz. The sure way out for Intel now is to just buy out ARM at mega - billions and get a control of their IP - don't think the UK has any Sherman anti - monopoly laws.
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goafrit
9/14/2011 5:31 PM EDT
I agree with you but Intel has never won by tech in the last five years. They win by sales. And watch Intel, they will do it thru generous dumping of the chips to the makers.
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hm
9/13/2011 7:47 PM EDT
This may be very difficult market for Intel. And Intel will not make profit from this market segment. Intel should concetrate on their core market and plan for future.
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Luis Sanchez
9/13/2011 11:32 PM EDT
Hey! I´m a little surprised. Intel making anti-virus software? Making chips for mobile and chips for netbooks and ... well, looks they are everywhere! Can they? There´s a saying "If you hold too much you´ll loose a grip". Let´s see how the story goes. However, I think Win 8 for mobile phones is starting to feel like a craving... I think too much talk about it is working. I wan´t to see it already. They better make a pretty good thing if they want to put a battle to iOS and Android. where are your bets?
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Tsantes
9/14/2011 9:19 AM EDT
NEVER rule Intel out. Time will tell.
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any1
9/14/2011 9:42 AM EDT
A Win 8 OS device powered by an Intel 22 nm finfet enabled Atom might gain traction in the market today. But such a device can not appear until at least two to three iphone/ipad generations into the future. It would seem that Intel is doomed to years of chasing the market in mobile computing with no guarantee of success.
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resistion
9/14/2011 8:30 PM EDT
A smartphone/pad is still a commodity. It is only attractive compared to PC or book because of its more compact and "cool" form factor. Improving the inner semiconductor components does not matter as much as it used to.
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unknown multiplier
9/15/2011 1:08 AM EDT
What is 'TK'?
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rick.merritt
9/16/2011 10:30 AM EDT
To come
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chanj
9/15/2011 12:58 PM EDT
Intel has acquired the fabrication technology to save power consumption. Yet, x86 architecture doesn't seem to be the right architecture for mobile/ tablet device for obvious reason. Yet, who knows what Intel would change to make its processor to better counter the technological challenges. The direction of jumping into the market is obviously right. The execution would be the key to the success.
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t.alex
9/24/2011 12:46 AM EDT
Yes, it seems Intel starts to learn from its its mistakes in the battle against ARM.
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rick.merritt
9/16/2011 10:31 AM EDT
I agree. X86 is still a power hog and Windows X is a memory hog. The two make for an underachieving tablet
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abraxalito
9/17/2011 9:22 PM EDT
'Pentium class system' - sounds like typical Intel marketing obfuscation. Pentium originally shipped at 60MHz - ARM has had a 'Pentium class CPU' for several years - its called the M0 and would easily run off a small solar cell.
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elctrnx_lyf
9/19/2011 12:57 PM EDT
The convergence of PC, Tablet and Smart phone market is discussed bigger than any other topics. If Android supported on x86 and they come out with a desktop OS then Google can directly turn out a war on Microsoft.
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