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Nestor.Amaya

11/6/2011 9:05 PM EST

I agree with the idea that Apple is not measuring their success by their overall ...

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Dez

10/17/2011 11:14 PM EDT

Ha ha.... Apple has done it again! Siri is changing the mobile user experience. ...

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Apple iPhone 4S: Beginning of the end?

Rick Merritt

10/4/2011 4:24 PM EDT

SAN JOSE, Calif. – Apple has reached a summit in what is becoming a mature smartphone market. Its biggest issue now is whether the rest of the journey is all downhill.

Apple rose from zero to king of the smartphone hill this year, largely on the strength of its realization in the iPhone that the handset is an open mobile Web browser and applications platform. But now competition has become a game of adding incremental features and rounding out product lines, and the competitors are coming on strong.

"Other" is already the biggest player in the category with 20 percent market share and growing at 310 percent a year, according to the latest figures from IHS iSuppli (table at bottom). At number two to Apple, Samsung is coming on strong at an astounding 600 percent growth and is already nearly even with Apple's 18.4 percent share, the market watcher said.

The iPhone 4S launched today proves the smartphone is no longer about big breakthroughs in technology or high concept. It's about smartly taking small steps forward. It is not the first smartphone to sport a dual-core processor, 8 MPixel camera or 1080-progressive video support. Those kudos have already been handed out to its Android competitors.

(It will be interesting to see if my UBM TechInsights colleagues were correct that this is still the Samsung-made 45nm A5 used in the iPad 2, not the 28nm version still reportedly grinding through the TSMC fab. They also predicted an 8MP Omnivision camera and an overall underwhelming iPhone 4+.)

When the thought leader is making only incremental advances that largely catch up with competition, I think it says the thought leader is in trouble.

Even iCloud in some ways is only Apple catching up with Google's online offerings.

Indeed, we can now see it will be at least 2012 before Apple rolls out an LTE handset using near-field communications for mobile payments—big steps its Android competitors have already taken. That's probably the iPhone 5 a year from now, basically a two year old high-end Android handset.

It's also worth noting Apple has not rolled out a low- or even middle-end smartphone to date. That's not the game as Apple plays it. Unfortunately for Cupertino, market watchers agree most of the smartphone growth for the next two years will be in those mid- and low-end segments where Apple won't play.

Others see this, too.

"We expect Apple to continue to maintain its momentum in the smartphone market in the third quarter and beyond,” said Francis Sideco, senior wireless analyst for IHS in comments released just before the iPhone 4S launch.

“However, Samsung has been coming on strong during the last few quarters, driven by its participation in both the high- and low-end smartphone segments," Sideco said. "One of the key indicators of how the smartphone competitive landscape will evolve during the next six to 12 months will be whether or not Apple will continue to stay exclusively in the high-end market,” he added.

That question just got answered by Apple's silence. For my money, the smartphone game is Samsung's, HTC's and Others' game to lose at this point.

That's not to say Apple doesn't have some great things going for it. It's vertically integrated model of owning everything from the A-series processor and iOS to the retail outlet is the envy of everyone in the consumer business.

Also strategic is the way Apple is providing ease of integration across iOS devices with its iCloud services. But an iTunes song on your Mac; it appears on your iPhone. Buy a book on your iPhone; it's available on your iPad.

This is the sort of thing Apple does better than anyone, and it is bound to attract users with Android devices from multiple vendors that don't work together nearly so well—if at all.

No doubt, Apple will gain some growth from such smart user-centric software integration. But it cannot hold off the Android herd forever.

And we have yet to see what Nokia and Microsoft will come up with in the next few months. I don't expect to be blown away, but they have the clout to create an ecosystem that grabs a slice of the expanding mobile pie.

The Kindle Fire could be the first to eat into the iPad tablet franchise in a big way. If Amazon buys HP's WebOS group, its appetite will grow considerably. And Apple can't use court actions to keep the well designed Samsung Galaxy iPad-alike devices out of all markets indefinitely.

I see Apple riding the crest for a few quarters then slowly riding the downward curve awhile. Unless it can grab one more brass ring and help define yet another major digital consumer market in say 2015 or so.

iTV, anyone?


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Borris

10/4/2011 6:03 PM EDT

I do think this business of "Android catching up Apple" is an interesting one. So many assumptions on what are relevant metrics. I remember a year or so ago seeing the market share charts for Apple, desktops and laptops - showing 5-10% market share overall. Not very interesting you might conclude. And then someone had a chart on Apple's market share for devices costing more than $1,000. Suddenly their share was over 90%. Implied in there is a strong comment on which segment of the market has a decent profit margin and which does not. I would love to see the analysts and the journalist really get their teeth into this level of issue and stick their necks out, with some level of financial model, as to whether increasing market share by grabbing mid-market is a profitable thing or not for Apple.

So, from the perspective of operating a profitable business on behalf of shareholders, what is the point of a large market share? It's the type of statistic and assumption that is regularly reeled off for virtually any business - without actually commenting on the fundamental value of the position. Apple seems to have done a good job going for the profitable section of the markets they attack, largely independent of the overall market share. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Should they increase their market share to head-off headlines that they are not the largest volume player? Or are they gently executing on a strategy that is successful for them?

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garydpdx

10/5/2011 11:08 AM EDT

This is a good point, given the recent discussion over the future of HP's PC division which dominates market share but comes with low margins.

As a disclaimer, I'm a happy user of HP, Dell and Apple computers at work and at home.

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pixies

10/5/2011 1:32 PM EDT

Agree, market share is not Apple's worry. In fact, Apple is a fashion, company, part of its appeal is low market share. The real problem with Apple is that it is too closely tied to Steve Job's charisma, without him, everything Apple does will be viewed as inadequate.

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Nestor.Amaya

11/6/2011 9:05 PM EST

I agree with the idea that Apple is not measuring their success by their overall market share in smartphones. This articles makes a pedantic point.

The interesting point that it misses is how Siri might revolutionize the integration of smartphones with other consumer devices.

Perhaps Siri is the next iTunes? It's really not about the handset, and never was with Apple.

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LiketoBike

10/4/2011 7:38 PM EDT

Very interesting points indeed. Are you successful "enough" if you are wallowing in money? Wall Street usually says "no", prompting the view that they are somewhat divorced from reality...

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PJames

10/4/2011 8:03 PM EDT

Undoubtedly they will be selling them as fast as they can build them. Not a bad problem to have.

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Patk0317

10/5/2011 12:07 AM EDT

"Other" has always been a bigger market share than Apple's. The real question is what GM does "other" get versus Apple. Apple makes more profit, with less market share.

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rick.merritt

10/5/2011 1:42 AM EDT

I'd like to hear what people think about the iPhone 4S and the direction for smartphones in the next year.

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garydpdx

10/5/2011 11:10 AM EDT

I think that Apple is safe to hold back the iPhone 5 for 6-9 months. 4G LTE networks continue to build out while for chipsets, there are power management issues to be addressed.

From a personal angle, the iPhone 5 may appear at T-Mobile if the AT&T acquisition is stopped, taking advantage of its HPSA+ network.

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Bill_B

10/5/2011 4:09 PM EDT

I'm not so certain how good a strategy holding back release of the iPhone 5 for 6-9 months is on Apple's part. Spending that kind of money on a 4S only to have it upstaged by a 5 in that short of timeframe will upset many 4S users; that's the exact reason why there is no 4S in my future. That begs the question is Apple having difficulty innovating and keeping up with the "Jones'"?

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kdboyce

10/5/2011 11:39 PM EDT

I would agree basically with 'garydpdx'. The next iPhone needs to take advantage of all the LTE networks have to offer, so it can wait awhile. The 4S model is a chance to really clean up any SW/HW issues in prep for what is to follow.

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garydpdx

10/8/2011 12:02 PM EDT

Thanks, kdboyce. To add, I think that there is still a lot of pent-up demand for the iPhone and adding Sprint, the #3 carrier, scoops up people who would leave if they could (lack of iPhone the most frequently cited reason for subscribers departing) but are on corporate contracts. Also, many people were on the fence about moving to the i4 but the i4S may get them to upgrade from their i3 or i3GS.

The only losers seem to be folks on T-Mobile, as the i4S cannot be used on their 700/2100 HSPA+ network that is being marketed as 4G (only 3G EDGE at 850 MHz). I would blame the uncertainly over the outcome of the AT&T acquisition.

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Bill98

10/5/2011 3:45 PM EDT

Apple is a complete package, a bit expensive, but quality. Any good performer always leaves the audience wanting more. Would a new case and a 4G network have made everyone smile? Today 4G is not all that much faster that what ATT offers in most places in the USA. When it is where I live, I will buy another Apple. I am placing my order for the new Apple 4GSpactular Friday.

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yalanand

10/5/2011 4:49 AM EDT

@Rick I totally agree with your analysis. I too feel this is the beginning of the end for Apple. I think this is a great oppurtunity for Android manufacturers to grab the market share from Apple. Infact investors too think the same, that is we saw Samsung, HTC, Motorola shares rise on tuesday.

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kinnar

10/5/2011 7:12 AM EDT

As the android will become driver friendly with most of the chip-set presently available for Chinese phones, this figures will drastically change compared to what we are seeing today.

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any1

10/5/2011 9:14 AM EDT

As the smart phone market matures and consumers get more choices the market will become ever more fragmented. Apple is perhaps following the best path for them by staying at high end. Market share is not everything. In fact it could have the beneficial affect of giving the Apple brand even more cachet as iphones become less common.

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KB3001

10/5/2011 10:03 AM EDT

I agree. Every product has a window of opportunity and Apple could not have captured the smart phone market segment forever. They will use the profits they generated in this segment in making better products.

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VK CA

10/5/2011 10:51 AM EDT

Rick. There is an aspect in your analysis that requires revision:
"It's also worth noting Apple has not rolled out a low- or even middle-end smartphone to date."
Apple has a very specific policy of marketing on older generation iPhones for mid/low end teir consumers. iPhone 4 will be sold for $99 and 3GS for $0 with 2-year contract.
This is the most effective product tearing strategy I have ever seen. They have teared offering without extra cost of development cycle!
I think Samsung and other serious players are giving a good fight to Apple, but as of now, the decline for Apple is behind the "reasonable prediction horizon". I think the bigger threat to Apple revenue can come from Amazon or Google if they succeed in content offering arena (music, movies,...).

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elctrnx_lyf

10/5/2011 11:16 AM EDT

how about apple reducing the prices of iphones similarly in countries like india. In turn they can always generate revenue through applications and other software.

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Duane Benson

10/5/2011 11:42 AM EDT

I wouldn't call this a mature market in any sense. It has hit a plateau. But that's more a function of letting processor and accessory performance catch up. The current generation, even with dual core, is an incremental jump from the prior. As soon as the innards take another big leap, as they did shortly before iPhone I, then we'll leave the plateau and see a fast growing market again.

Current smart phones and tablets are almost powerful enough to be a desktop applications platform. I've run a word processor and spreadsheet off of Angstrom on an ARM-based Beagleboard. It's close enough to useable to see future viability.

Whether it be a next gen Arm, Atom or something else, when you can slap wireless mouse, keyboard and full-size display connectivity into a smart phone, the world changes again.

While smart phones are quite popular, there is set that still considers them to big, expensive or silly for the capabilities. How will that set feel when you can sit at your desk (home, office or Starbucks) and have your desktop computer in your pocket, just using the wireless peripherals? (Yes, there will be security issues, but you have to assume that they will be solved about as well as they are today).

"The Cloud" gets rep[laced or augmented by "The Pocket." Your full-power computing needs go with you wherever you go. No need to decide between laptop or desktop. All you computing capability, high-performance applications excepted, is in the phone in your pocket.

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Nic_Mokhoff

10/5/2011 12:16 PM EDT

I will add that while the iPhone 4s is an incremental move consistent with Apple's strategic choice for bringing out new "i" products, I would not poo-poo one aspect of 4s that is being underplayed. The Siri speech recognition system is a large step forward for obtaining navigational directions via speech, the ultimate communications medium. Kudos to this Apple technology, probably obtained from third party. Let's hope the consumer likes what he/she hears.

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Nic_Mokhoff

10/5/2011 12:19 PM EDT

Here's the Wired version of Siri's genesis: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/siri-darpa-iphone/

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GREAT-Terry

10/5/2011 2:54 PM EDT

Yep! I was a little disappointed when knowing that iPhone 5 will be delayed further and what we can get is iPhone 4S. I'm still hoping to see when Apple comes up with a better idea to make your phone to be the terminal of a large computation power - cloud. It may be even worse if the 5 is just a change on cosmetic but nothing great in terms of new technology. I'm still waiting to see what Apple will do in the coming year.

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Peter1010

10/5/2011 2:56 PM EDT

There simply are not 4G LTE networks that are widespread in the USA. Maybe by this time next year.

The 4S does have advantages as it is a world phone; this is attractive to business people and heavy vacation travelers.

The voice recognition, Siri, may be useful but certainly not a super development.

Overlooked is the free 3G phone which will get new people introduced into the Apple ecosystem and spur or maintain future growth rates.



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aeng

10/5/2011 3:03 PM EDT

It all began with an iPhone...
March was when my son celebrated his 15th birthday, and I got him an iPhone.
He just loved it. Who wouldn't?

I celebrated my birthday in July, and my wife made me very happy when she bought me an iPad.

My daughter's birthday was in August so I got her an iPod Touch.

My wife celebrated her birthday in September so I got her an iRon.

It was around then that the fight started...
What my wife failed to recognize is that the iRon can be integrated into the home network with the iWash, iCook and iClean.
This inevitably activates the iNag reminder service.
I should be out of the hospital by Monday.

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kdboyce

10/5/2011 11:42 PM EDT

'aeng': iSee and iUnderstand and am iAmused.

As the Aussie's say: "Good on ya, Mate!"

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Etmax

10/6/2011 11:04 AM EDT

We Do :-) dats funny

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Sanborn84

10/5/2011 3:10 PM EDT

I don't remember the world proclaiming Apple's death when the 3GS was announced, this strategy is NO DIFFERENT than Intel's Tick-Tock plan.

As for the Andoid market catching up...I'll report back when I don't have to pull the battery on my wife's droid every 24 hours.

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earl.albin

10/5/2011 3:28 PM EDT

Ah but same old same old about Apple's demise. Every time thus far the pundits have been wrong. Every_Single_Time.

So why do you think you are the one to get it right? Are you that gifted with sight no one else possesses? Then why are you writing and not winning the lotto? What a genus!

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s5351b

10/5/2011 3:33 PM EDT

I totally agree. 3GS was a big success and I expect 4S to be #1 gift for this holiday season. We all will know better in 2 weeks when we will learn the first week sales of the phone.

On the technical level, I think that Apple is playing it safe holding back the iPhone 5 for next year. 4G LTE networks continue to build out while the baseband chipsets have power management issues. All the criticism that Apple did not decide to be on the leading edge would be replaced (if they announced LTE phone) by complaints about slow data speeds and dropped calls (because of limited LTE deployment) and lousy battery life. People buy Apple for variety of reasons but certainly Apple selected not to tarnish the Apple brand by introducing a product that does not meet the high quality that Apple is associated with!

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Frank Eory

10/5/2011 3:59 PM EDT

I totally agree too, and find these predictions of Apple's demise rather amusing. They will not be able to build iPhone 4GS fast enough to meet the demand!

LTE is not widespread, nor are the number of LTE-capable smartphones in the U.S. NFC is still in the field trial stage.

Apple has plenty of time to integrate LTE & NFC and roll out iPhone 5 by mid-2012, and find itself with yet another smash hit that it can't build enough of to meet the demand.

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Bill_B

10/5/2011 3:58 PM EDT

NOT INTERESTED!!!! My humble opinion, I'll stick with my old (ugh) 3G until Apple decides to become an Innovator again. Just saying.... The 4S is an indicator that Apple's innovation may be slowing OR possibly that their vision outpaces technology offerings. Doubt it's that later because others are still innovating. Apple disappoints the Apple Nation for the first time in quite a while! Maybe the Andriod is the answer! Prognosticators appear to be right about Apple's market share dwindling in the future. Apple, please start innovating again and become a technology leader once more!

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lurchl

10/5/2011 4:01 PM EDT

Everyone seems to use hardware as the defining metric for smartphone progress - how many camera megapixels, how much memory, availability of memory card slot(s), # of processor cores and clk speed, size & weight, screen pixels.

It's small, light, and faster than its predecessor, but where this new iPhone shines is in Siri. If it works as well as it does in the demo videos, it will be Apple's defining smartphone moment. Usable voice control and response integrated with all the apps is huge. It changes the UI to voice instead of keyboard control.

I hate most virtual keyboards. They're too small for even my smallish fingers, and I'm pretty manually coordinated, courtesy of classical piano training and years playing keyboards onstage and off.

No, it's not 4G. But Apple has some speedup hocus-pocus, and the new phone's battery life exceeds that of any 4G phone.

So Siri - if it works - will be the major reason I upgrade from my three-year-old dumb phone. I need something that will simplify my life and help me live it fully.

It's about the *user interface*, folks. That's Apple's killer app.

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Frank Eory

10/5/2011 4:11 PM EDT

Yes, Siri seems to have glossed over by most reviewers, but this has the potential to be a revolutionary advancement in the UI.

I'm also anxious to learn about power reduction/battery life improvements.

As engineers, we sometimes forget that most smartphone buyers are not engineers or even tech-savvy consumers. The average consumer wants ease of use, access to every imaginable app or service, long battery life and cool styling. Apple shines like no other company in every one of those areas.

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Duane Benson

10/5/2011 5:30 PM EDT

I totally agree. Sometimes Apple leads in hardware. Sometimes not. Always, they hang their hat on the UI. The iPod wasn't the first, biggest, cheapest or fastest Mp3 player. It was their UI that revolutionized the Mp3 world. Same with the iPhone.

There are other phones with more features, longer battery life, etc. But none have that UI - what makes Apple Apple.

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selinz

10/5/2011 4:19 PM EDT

There are now so many phones out there now with much more functionality than the iphone that they had to offer a low end entry point. Free is a compelling price. The fashion boys will still stick with Apple because of perception. Tech savvy consumers will probably make a different choice.

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gatorfan

10/5/2011 4:20 PM EDT

It's about the content that runs on the device and elegance (ease of use) of the product that defines the iPhone. Sorry hardware junkies but a faster processor or even LTE doesn't mean anything if you can't use the device or have content that runs on it. I laugh when the technorati don't get their dose of hardware nerd-dom and then declare the death of the product. You're looking at the wrong thing.

A prime example of this. I have a friend with his shiney new Samsung Galaxy 2S in our office. He tried for an hour to get it connected into the secure WiFi and had to try numerous combinations of WEP/WPA, etc manually, trial and error to get it to work. I pulled out my iPhone (a 3 yr old 3G mind you!) and in about 5 seconds had it on the same WiFi. The iPhone detected and auto-configured itself without all the fuss of "open" Android. And THAT is why the iPhone is relevant and successful. It doesn't take a Bachelors degree in EE to operate it!

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Nic_Mokhoff

10/5/2011 4:26 PM EDT

And Siri is what distinguishes the UI from Apple-wanabees. If it works as described, consumers will have to "wow" this 4S, as they would any step-function change in THEIR experience. Pundits should give consumers the chance to make up their own mind. But then they would not be pundits, would they?

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Some Guy

10/5/2011 4:30 PM EDT

iPHONE HAS JUMPED THE SHARK.
Everyone in my family was waiting for an iPhone that runs 4G on Verizon. Looks like they blew it here, because we aren't waiting another year or even 6 months. Don't care that 4G isn't everywhere -- it's everywhere we are, and frankly the web on 3G is worthless. Based on my family, I'm seeing a 100% defection to Android. They don't get another chance at the five of us for 2 years, now.

This isn't without precedent. Apple got cocky back in the Apple/// days and saw their market share of personal computers go to 3%. Took them a decade and a wholesale change of processor architecture to recover. That's what got Jobs fired the first time, and looks like history is repeating itself -- Apple, no Jobs, marketshare tanks. Play that out to the logical conclusion, I guess that implies iPhone 7 runs on an Intel Atom.

One word of advice, Apple: if you are going to shoot yourself in the foot a second time, aim for the same hole and it won't hurt as much. :)

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Suboptimus

10/7/2011 7:36 PM EDT

I'll bet I'm the only person in my family who even knows what 4G is. Don't overestimate the importance of your 5-person contribution to the entire US phone market.

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hazydave

10/5/2011 4:44 PM EDT

Apple's still the only luxury brand in the mobile device business. They're going to keep doing fine. Curious to Apple isn't only the high profit margins, but the simply fact they haven't always been judged harshly on hardware tech.

Look at the Mac... for years, heck, for decades, it was behind in performance. Yet, considering a leading and innovative platform. Today, it's a bog standard PClone, and yet, also seen by the masses as a leading and innovative platform. The first two iPhones didn't support 3G of any kind; they didn't have full HSPA until the iPhone 4, etc. But that just didn't matter.

So the iPhone 4S is an also-ran in the smartphone race for 2011... but that's not going to matter a great deal to folks upgrading from the 3GS. Or even the iPhone 4... if anything, maybe they get a few less crazies jumping contract for the 4S, as they'll figure on something superior next year.

This isn't the end of actual Apple dominance, since Apple doesn't dominate. Ok, sure, they're the most popular single brand of smartphone. Samsung is a few million behind in a typical quarter... but give it a few more quarters. Meanwhile, Android is outselling iOS 2:1. And while you can point to Android phones hitting the low-end as well as the high-end, isn't that just what Apple's still doing? The iPhone 3GS is not free, the iPhone 4 at $100... same range of pricing across the board for Android. And unless Apple's changed chip suppliers, tons of business for Samsung, still.

What this ends, I think, is the total adoration of Apple in the tech press. Apple's not leading in hardware, not leading in software... maybe still leading in profits. We'll see how next week's Nexus Prime and Android 4.0 announcements go, compared to this week's iPhone/iOS stuff.

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hazydave

10/5/2011 4:50 PM EDT

And for those few who don't think 4G matters, I claim it does for two reasons.

First is simple: you're going to be near 4G soon. The iPhone 4S is released in a few weeks, and it'll presumably sell for a year. That means buyers of this device will be ending their typical US 2-year contracts in 2014. Even if I paid cash, I'm not plunking down $600 or whatever artificially inflated price I'd pay for a smartphone every year. Verizon is claiming they'll finish their LTE rollout -- every cell -- sometime in 2013.

Second reason is simple: EvDO. There's certainly some breathing room in HSPA+, if you can get it. So AT&T users at least have a chance at a speed up in the iPhone 4S, though AT&T has finished their HSPA+ rollout... if you can't get it today, you probably never will. They're spending on LTE now. Verizon and Sprint, meanwhile, may get the iPhone 4S, but it's still coming in at EvDO speeds.. that the maximum 3.1Mb/s down that's usually more like 600-900kb/s down. If you've been in the same room as an LTE or WiMax phone surfin' on your OG Droid (hint: that's me), you do not want to lock into that for another two years.

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FINE-X

10/5/2011 10:40 PM EDT

It appears that there has not been any major industrial design updates to Apple's products for a while. The iPhone 4S, MBP, MBA to name a few have retained the same design. Does Apple have a problem signing off new designs without Jobs or has J Ives flown the coop?

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MarcoPolo13

10/6/2011 3:23 AM EDT

I agree with the posters who look towards a balance of software versus hardware advances in judging progress. I purchased the Nexus S when it came out knowing that there were a couple of choices at the time with a few more megapixels etc. But... Nexus S gets the android platform updates instantly with no provider fuss/delay.

Google is all about back-end smart service integration. I can say that I have been using the Nexus OS version from day one which effectively does everything Siri beta claims. I rarely use the keyboard since I got it. Nexus has a dedicated search (voice aware) button which follows commands and the dictation is excellent and works for all apps.

Siri is more free form language wise but does it work this way outside the English language? Google looks at the big picture... the Android voice is tied in with the many years of training Google's translation services. Two way calls with Google translating on the fly is where they are heading... I don't see how Apple will compete long term.

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Etmax

10/6/2011 11:01 AM EDT

I think the the fact that they fixed the HW/RF sensitivity bugs is a real plus, I refused to upgrade to the 4 for that reason. Also having better battery life is good. Voice control is a grand idea, I hope it works as well as suggested. What I have to say, is that although Apple has some (to me) serious shortcomings in the SW arena on iPhone, after having a Nokia smart phone (pre touch screen) for 2 years and being frustrated by SW crashes the 3GS was a welcome change. Also since I changed providers calls no longer drop out. My daughter purchased a Samsung Galaxy and was forever complaining about it freezing, and recently changed to a 4 and said it's much better. So, given that the primary use of a phone is to make phone calls, I know I would find freezing worse than my other gripes, so maybe that is the gap that Samsung and others must close?

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bcarso

10/6/2011 12:25 PM EDT

Although most of us are hardware-focused, it seems as if Apple needs to find another service, so they can sell razor blades. Sure, razors are fine too, particularly if they are high-styled. Just a thought. Of course it's relatively easy to copy services, and difficult to express industrial design language through them.

I've never been swept up in the iCult, but I have seen businesses who attempted to deal with Cupertino by supplying to them devastated by the capriciousness typical of Steve's regime. I remember when Firewire was going to be IT for a while, and a small company was assured that their substantial investment in custom hardware for Apple was going to reap rewards. Then, virtually overnight, Jobs decided that Firewire sucked and it had to all be something else. Just like that. That characteristic of Apple will definitely NOT be missed.

Brad Wood

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ams0178

10/7/2011 8:16 AM EDT

I recently got married and my marriage involved the merging of my iPhone 3GS and my wife's droid. Somehow that hasn't gotten in the middle of our marriage ;)

One big thing that hasn't been mentioned yet and is very important to me is the user experience that the iPhone has. The user interface is very intuitive and upon picking up an iPhone one almost instantly knows how to use it. A number of times I've picked up my wife's phone to attempt a simple task only for it to take me several minutes to figure it out.

I don't think the user experience that Apple brings to the table is not something I've seen anywhere else.

Alan

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Rich Krajewski

10/7/2011 10:54 AM EDT

It was only a matter of time before the intimate details of a marriage would involve Apple technology.

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Rich Krajewski

10/7/2011 10:58 AM EDT

It's the user experience, don't you know.

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Frank Eory

10/7/2011 4:49 PM EDT

Funny you should say that about the Droid. My wife has had one for a couple years, and since I never use her phone, and have minimal user experience with the Android OS, I too find that it takes me a minute or two figure out how to do what I want to do whenever I pick the thing up.

I never had any such frustration the first time I ever picked up an iPhone.

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s5351b

10/8/2011 4:33 PM EDT

I responded several days to all the negative comments that we will know in two weeks if 4S will be a success like 3GS was. We do not have to wait anymore! Today we learned that 4S is already sold out! AT&T announced that they sold 200K in the first 12 hours and it was the most successful iPhone launch in their history!

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Frank Eory

10/10/2011 4:50 PM EDT

As it turns out, Apple set a new record, selling over 1 million iPhone 4GSs in the first 24 hours. When iPhone 4 was launched, sales were "only" 600,000 on the first day.

Beginning of the end? It sure doesn't look that way!

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Dez

10/11/2011 12:01 AM EDT

yup... the world needs Apple to get out of the economic slump.

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moronda

10/9/2011 1:40 PM EDT

I have the Droid Bionic. It is the meanest phone on the market. The 4G LTE is incredible.

Apple is falling behind big time. Major mistake not to have 4G LTE on the phone. They must not have the technical expertise to get it to work.

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s5351b

10/9/2011 7:12 PM EDT

You must be kidding if you believe that Apple does not have the expertise to do 4G. It is clearly their decision that the networks and the baseband chips for 4G are not mature enough and do not meet the high standards that set Apple apart. These days doing LTE modem is not an impossible task and Qualcomm is very happy to help and get their chips inside.

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hm

10/10/2011 6:40 PM EDT

Why people are so eager to see early demise of iPhone and Apple? They should appreciate Apple's design team's contribution to bring novel technology. They should encourage them to do better.

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Etmax

10/10/2011 8:19 PM EDT

Human nature I guess, we call it tall poppy syndrome.

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Dez

10/11/2011 12:04 AM EDT

Envy... is a sin.

I mean if Apple is in demise, why suddenly reports that clones of Macbook Air will spur demand for chips?

Now they call this ultra book.... which was a niche carve out by Apple successfully.

The rest are just wannabe....

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Dez

10/10/2011 11:14 PM EDT

Why would anyone bet against a company who has more cash than US Treasury?

Seriously Samsung products uses the cheapest components it can find while Apple has always pride itself in quality, from SW to HW.

The rest are just wannabe.... I would not associate myself with that.

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eewiz

10/11/2011 2:26 AM EDT

Apple is on track for selling 25M iphone 4s in this quarter. "Beginning of the end"! Give us a break.

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Etmax

10/11/2011 3:19 AM EDT

Apple does some things really well, one of them is create a loyal following that become the best advertisers of a product. Sadly their strong market position makes them unresponsive to customer issues, and this has undone many a company. The big question is whether they will learn this before or after a significant No. of customers jump ship. I'm not talking about now, but rather what may potentially happen in the future. It also is heavily dependent on what competitors do, hindsight is so much easier to comment on :-)

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Sheetal.Pandey

10/12/2011 3:27 AM EDT

Well looks like everyone is crazy about iphones..but wonder do they ever use all the features completely...

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Etmax

10/12/2011 8:08 AM EDT

Interesting question, probably more to the point does anyone use any of the features the iPhone offers that older phones didn't? I can only speak for me personally, but I had an early smart phone with email, web and some of the others and apart from confirming they worked I never used them, because it was all just too cumbersome. Then I got an iPhone, and all of a sudden email, web browsing skype and notepad became infinitely more usable. They were there before but now they were freed. It was liberating. Then I downloaded some basic apps like weather (the supplied one was useless compared to purchased one), and a TV guide (I don't buy a paper guide any more) some conversion calculators and some with task specific formulae, post code finder, translator, dictionary, thesaurus, level, stud finder, barcode reader, star finder, project timer, tram/bus timetable, movie session times finder, voice recorder, GPS, pus a few others. I now don't bother with a briefcase that I used to carry all of the old style individual device, and I feel freed. OK, so the reception sensitivity isn't as good as my old style phone, and I only 2-4 days battery life, but I am so much more mobile. So to answer your original question, no I don't use all of the features (possible by some ridiculous No. of apps) but I use a wide range of them, and had the iPhone not come out, maybe no one else in the near future would have forced this change of play in the phone arena. If I was starting out now, there's a fair and even chance that an android phone would be my choice, but with me now on the 'i' band wagon, something will have to go seriously wrong with iPhones compared to others for me switch. The iPhone has issues, but it IS a good choice and was the first "REAL" smart phone

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AnalogMCHP

10/12/2011 1:48 PM EDT

I think the thing you are missing here.... that Apple sells a "state of mind". Its like, not to be taken in a negative way, a cult. You dont see cars driving around with IBM/PC or Samsung stickers on the back window. Apple (Steve Jobs) has created someting the rest never will.

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Etmax

10/12/2011 7:35 PM EDT

:-) remember the Amiga? it had similar cult following. Not never, just rarely. I mean most people I know hate their PC, there's just no viable option for us.

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sharps_eng

10/12/2011 3:12 PM EDT

I have just bought my first Apple - a Macbook Pro, to get a development platform for iApps. I am struggling with the loss of the PC's Delete key (I never ever used Backspace except for BACK when browsing) and Alt-left instead of CTL-L for word-left. Fundamentals, but I can learn keys and it doesn't affect my PC work.
My overall opinion? If there were only two brands of car, one would be mainstream and affordable, the other would be more exclusive, and, having broken through the cost barrier, would be built to a more luxurious price-performance ratio (name your own cars!). Naturally, the fancier car would be aspirational.
So, if you want to really get rich, build the computer that Apple owners would aspire to -- and then you can name your own price!

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Rich Krajewski

10/12/2011 10:38 PM EDT

I'm waiting for school boards to declare Apple iPhones are a necessary part of modern education, and must be purchased for students so that we can keep our competitive edge. Otherwise, Thailand might beat us at texting someday.

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Etmax

10/12/2011 11:38 PM EDT

Brilliant!! :-) I love it. Jokes aside, one of my daughters is a school teacher and they are going over to iPads for education. This means that your joke may just come true.

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peralta_mike

10/13/2011 12:34 PM EDT

Beginning of the End?

There is no such thing. People are and will continue to be innovative. I believe Apple will continue to innovate. If not, then others will.

Isn't that what they said about Newtonian physics .. and then Relativity and Quantum Physics turned the whole physics world upside down.

Never say it's the end when it comes to technology or science. History has proven there is no end..

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emmsys

10/13/2011 2:47 PM EDT

Quick disclaimer...I am not an Apple fanboy but I do have an iPad2 and an iPhone4. Everyone needs to understand that there's more to Apple's success than hardware specifications. First off, there are a number of misconceptions. Apple does indeed cover the low-end to mid-end market with the "free" 3GS and the $100 iPhone 4. Sure the iPhone4 is not a low end device but the price is certainly in that range.

Second, iPhones/iPads/Macs are not just fashion statements. The best example is when my Mom picked up my iPad2 to play her favorite slot machine app (I loaded it once for her a while back). She asked "how do I start the game?" I responded in a nice way "Figure it out yourself!" And SHE DID. She looked at the iPad2 and saw that there was only 1 button on the front. She pressed it and the screen turned on to show the little slider. She then swiped at the slider to unlock the screen and then she swiped through the screens to find her favorite slot machine game. THAT says it all right there about the user experience with Apple products (and more specifically iOS). My Mom would make a great Apple spokesperson just from that experience alone.

Another thing to remember is the Apple ecosystem. When my iPhone4 contract runs out I won't hesitate to get the next iPhone...why? Because I will have accumulated 3 years worth of contacts, apps, notes, reminders, calendars, game data etc. etc. And ALL OF IT will instantly be moved over to the new phone. That is probably one big reason why the iPhone4S is already a record breaker...people upgrading their older iPhones because of expired contracts. My coworker ordered a 4S because the contract on his 3GS expired. He did not even consider anything else because of all of the stuff he has accumulated on his iPhone.

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Etmax

10/13/2011 7:35 PM EDT

The only thing I would say is that iPhone syncs contacts to windows address book which any other smart phone should now be able to sync with, but certainly the windows mobiles would. Also calendars sync with Outlook under windows which windows mobiles would too, and maybe (anyone know) Android too? That only leaves apps, which depending on what ones you use, for a few dollars you could easily replace. Now with that said I have an iPhone 3GS and would upgrade to an iPhone 4GS if I needed to because of the user experience you mentioned. They seem to just work (unless you're a iPhone 4 without a skin) where as I hear some issues with the much awarded Samsung, and I just don't want to go through those issues again.

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top-shoppingmall

10/13/2011 9:43 PM EDT

Thanks for you post! Apple is perhaps following the best path for them by staying at high end. Market share is not everything. In fact it could have the beneficial affect of giving the Apple brand even more cachet as iphones become less common.more info at: http://www.top-shoppingmall.com/security-systems-1.htm

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Semiman_#1

10/16/2011 8:10 PM EDT

This article completely misses the point. RIM could release a phone with a 1600*1200 display, foldable, virtual keyboard, 8 core processor, etc. and it would make not an iota of difference in the market share. IPHONE and Apple finally made it not about the hardware but about the platform and ecosystem.


Unless you are tethering to a big display device, etc. do you really need LTE speeds? I mean really, is 7-14mbps of 3G too slow? I recently downgraded my internet at home to save money ... and I only have a 5mbps link now. I am a techy and frankly, it is never really an issue.


What matters more and more to the majority of buyers is what their phone can do for them and how easily and seamlessly it does that. In that regard, Apple is king. Everything just works and works well. 95% of people do not have time to fight with their phone to get it to work.


And just like there is Dell, HP, ACER, Toshiba, Sony, etc. on the PC space, Samsung is but one player in the Android space. Samsung is a company that has no clue about user experience when it comes to software. Have you ever tried one of their windows based software programs that comes with their phones? It is absolutely brutal. They should be embarrassed. They just don't get it.

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Dez

10/17/2011 11:14 PM EDT

Ha ha.... Apple has done it again! Siri is changing the mobile user experience.

I am ditching my rubbish RIM!

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