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Qualcomm not worried about mobile graphics competition
Sylvie Barak
3/1/2012 11:57 AM EST
BARCELONA--Qualcomm is not worried about falling behind its competition when it comes to mobile graphics, according to a senior executive at the firm.
Speaking at MWC, Qualcomm’s president of internet services and innovation center, Rob Chandhok, claimed Qualcomm shipped more GPUs “than anyone else in the world,” and said that though the chips may currently lack DX11 support, they had “the correct architecture for mobile.”
“Dx11 is something we’re working on, for the first time,” said Chandhok, explaining that it was highly complex compared to previous iterations of the technology, owing to various bits of silicon needing to be added in.
Chandhok denied claims that Qualcomm may have fallen behind its competition in terms of graphics, however, saying that the firm had the best and brightest graphical engineers who were working on bringing the Adreno platform up to speed.
“We made a significant investment in taking on the AMD graphics,” he said, alluding to the $65 million Qualcomm paid to acquire AMD’s mobile graphics unit back in 2009.
“We don’t see any need to use Imagination Technologies, like our competitors do,” he added, when asked whether adopting the same graphics partner as Intel and Texas Instruments would accelerate matters somewhat.
Imagination Technologies has often said it would consider it a coup to land Qualcomm as a GPU customer, and several analysts have recommended Qualcomm use the independent graphics maker lest it lose out to competitors like Nvidia, which brings its PC level graphics to the smartphone and tablet arena.

Speaking about Qualcomm’s processors in the general sense, Chandhok said Qualcomm thought about its processors “a little bit differently” to others in the space.
“Our focus is not on the number of cores, we’re really about is trying to drive the user experience,” said Chandhok, echoing a sentiment oft repeated by Texas Instruments.
Chandhok said that for Qualcomm, what mattered most was what happened when its chips got into users’ hands, via their favorite mobile device.
“We do a lot of systems optimizations,” he said explaining that Qualcomm took great pains to integrate the software with its chips, in order to think of the entire user experience pipeline and achieve “optimal balance.”
Interestingly, said Chandhok, more cores did not always equal more performance, and in fact sometimes hindered things.
“Two cores outperformed four in most cases,” said Chandhok showing off some Qualcomm benchmarks between its new 1.5GhZ S4 8960 and its quad core 1.3-4GhZ models.

Speaking at MWC, Qualcomm’s president of internet services and innovation center, Rob Chandhok, claimed Qualcomm shipped more GPUs “than anyone else in the world,” and said that though the chips may currently lack DX11 support, they had “the correct architecture for mobile.”
“Dx11 is something we’re working on, for the first time,” said Chandhok, explaining that it was highly complex compared to previous iterations of the technology, owing to various bits of silicon needing to be added in.
Chandhok denied claims that Qualcomm may have fallen behind its competition in terms of graphics, however, saying that the firm had the best and brightest graphical engineers who were working on bringing the Adreno platform up to speed.
“We made a significant investment in taking on the AMD graphics,” he said, alluding to the $65 million Qualcomm paid to acquire AMD’s mobile graphics unit back in 2009.
“We don’t see any need to use Imagination Technologies, like our competitors do,” he added, when asked whether adopting the same graphics partner as Intel and Texas Instruments would accelerate matters somewhat.
Imagination Technologies has often said it would consider it a coup to land Qualcomm as a GPU customer, and several analysts have recommended Qualcomm use the independent graphics maker lest it lose out to competitors like Nvidia, which brings its PC level graphics to the smartphone and tablet arena.

Speaking about Qualcomm’s processors in the general sense, Chandhok said Qualcomm thought about its processors “a little bit differently” to others in the space.
“Our focus is not on the number of cores, we’re really about is trying to drive the user experience,” said Chandhok, echoing a sentiment oft repeated by Texas Instruments.
Chandhok said that for Qualcomm, what mattered most was what happened when its chips got into users’ hands, via their favorite mobile device.
“We do a lot of systems optimizations,” he said explaining that Qualcomm took great pains to integrate the software with its chips, in order to think of the entire user experience pipeline and achieve “optimal balance.”
Interestingly, said Chandhok, more cores did not always equal more performance, and in fact sometimes hindered things.
“Two cores outperformed four in most cases,” said Chandhok showing off some Qualcomm benchmarks between its new 1.5GhZ S4 8960 and its quad core 1.3-4GhZ models.

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chipmonk
3/1/2012 2:32 PM EST
QC does sound a bit defensive about their graphics and seem to be trying to make up for it by quoting various factors ( 2 vs 4 cores, hotspots, life - when most of us change phones within 2 years ) that the average end customer may not care about and thus may not play a role in selecting the chip by a smart phone mfr.
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Jeanshack
3/1/2012 4:19 PM EST
There was an article on EE Times Europe sometime back written by a guy from ST Ericsson with an argument that Quad cores were definitely ahead of its time.
Qualcomm expressing a similar thought would mean NVIDIA is definitely rushing their processors to the market.
Qualcomm has the ability to design almost every piece of silicon in a handset and by far qualifies as the best system provider in this business, I am sure they can afford to lack in the GPU front and still have a lock on 30% of the smart phone market.
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goafrit
3/2/2012 11:30 AM EST
What do you want a public firm to say or do in the public? They cannot say they are not worried until they wake up one morning to obsolescence.
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selinz
3/2/2012 5:02 PM EST
Phones are handling a lot of tasks at once which, in a simple minded analysis, suggests that the user exp. will be better with 4 cores. I notice delays on my dual core tegra, even though it is (or at least, was) touted as best in class.
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david.may
3/4/2012 2:33 AM EST
"t is (or at least, was) touted as best in class."
they lied :)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 didnt have a NEON SIMD unit in it so it could be the best in class at the time... as the saying goes no NEON no good
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david.may
3/4/2012 2:34 AM EST
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elctrnx_lyf
3/6/2012 5:30 AM EST
Qualcomm doesn't want to lose on the investment they made in the graphic chip market. They will go on developing more in house chipsets rather than buying it from imagination technologies.
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