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Next stop for SpaceX is space station
George Leopold
5/22/2012 1:08 PM EDT
WASHINGTON – With the successful launch of the Dragon cargo ship, SpaceX engineers and NASA controllers are now focusing on the spacecraft’s readiness to approach and link up with the International Space Station.
If the mission goes as planned, the historic attempt to “berth” the first commercial spacecraft to the space station -- astronauts aboard the orbiting lab would grab the spacecraft and pull it into a docking port – is scheduled to occur on Friday (May 25), SpaceX said after a flawless launch of its Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral on Tuesday morning.

The SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket lifts off from Pad 40 at the Kennedy Space Center on Tuesday (May 22) carrying the Dragon cargo ship to the International Space Station (Source: NASA)
NASA officials would then decide on Friday whether the spacecraft was fit to “berth” with the station. Earlier spacecraft like the space shuttle actually docked with the station, but NASA wants astronauts aboard the station to grab the test vehicle with a robotic arm, then attach it to station.
The complexity of the rendezvous and berthing maneuvers accounted for a series of launch delays. SpaceX President President Gwynne Shotwell said last week that NASA program managers and company engineers spent months validating every line of Dragon’s navigation software code. A chief concern was that Dragon’s systems might interfere with space station equipment during rendezvous maneuvers.
The upcoming tests of the orbiting spacecraft will reveal whether NASA’s software assurance program was successful. SpaceX officials acknowledged again after today’s launch that the berthing maneuver will be a “feat that requires extreme precision.”
Dragon is carrying nonessential supplies to the space station, including clothing and food. If it successfully links up with the space station, it is scheduled to remain attached until May 31 while astronauts unload supplies and load cargo for Dragon’s return to earth.
“We obviously have to go through a number of steps to berth with the space station, but everything is looking really good and I think I would count today as a success no matter what happens with the rest of the mission,” SpaceX founder Elon Musk said in a statement released after the launch. Musk likened the mission to the advent of the Internet in the mid-1990s when private companies shifted many of their operations to the Web.
This week’s mission to the space station is the second demonstration flight under a NASA commercial cargo and crew contract with SpaceX, which became the first private entity to launch and recover a spacecraft in December 2010.
The Dragon spacecraft is scheduled to splashdown off the Southern California coast after completing its two-week mission.
Click here to watch video of Tuesday's launch.
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Frank Eory
5/22/2012 1:47 PM EDT
This is already a fantastic and historic achievement. I really hope they are able to complete the entire mission.
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george.leopold
5/22/2012 2:08 PM EDT
So far, so good, Frank. NASA reports that solar arrays and nav sensors on Dragon "trunk" deployed properly, and the spacecraft's GPS was nominal.
An interesting side note: SpaceX reportedly confirmed during a post-launch press conference that the Falcon 9 second stage carried to orbit the remains of 300 human beings, including Gordon Cooper, one of the original Mercury astronauts. Technically, therefore, they WERE carrying an astronaut!
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george.leopold
5/22/2012 6:02 PM EDT
Link to NASA press conference, opening with SpaceX founder Elon Musk saying the flight of its Dragon spacecraft to the International Space is so far "spot on":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9MaFqZUQkE&NR=1&feature=endscreen
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ibm221
5/22/2012 9:08 PM EDT
uh... spent some time to read Elon Musk on wiki,
what a poor man,
he is not a genius, undergradute phys degree won't change 2 much of this world.
so far he is doing low level engineering works,
spaceX basically copy/paste NASA's IPs, he is better supported than North Korea which helped in his success, but nothing worth boasting.
Tesla... tech level should not be 2 far above a undergraduate/high school project...
a boy fulled with hollywood fantasies and wish to change the world in a cheap way, that just won't work...
I bet Yi Cui's battery firm if succeed will have far deeper impact...
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 9:31 AM EDT
We'd prefer to focus on the company and the technology as opposed to the SpaceX CEO, who is currently a media darling. Say what you want about Elon Musk, but so far he has done, as the Apollo astronauts used to say, "what we said we were going to do."
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Duane Benson
5/23/2012 11:23 AM EDT
That's pretty much the point. Generally technology doesn't become broadly commercially viable until it reaches a point where it's no longer the exclusive domain of genius.
Space flight will not be private and commercial until it is routine enough and old enough technology to be lower cost and more reliable. There are uncountable commercial products that came from NASA IP. Space-X is using publicly funded technology and infrastructure as a base, but so does everyone else when they pull their car out onto a public street.
It's impossible to say if Space-X will end up profitable, but it is a very significant milestone in getting space travel out of R&D and into the hands of commercial ventures. Low earth orbit should be low-tech commercial at this point in the evolution of space travel. NASA needs to focus on real research, exploration and discovery. That's where NASA's value lies. Not in being a trucking company.
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DrQuine
5/22/2012 9:32 PM EDT
This is a high stakes venture at a time when the United States does not have an available "ferry" to the Space Station. Good luck!
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ibm221
5/22/2012 11:22 PM EDT
I have some bad feeling on lettng them handle manned flight.
but maybe nb can stop it from happening , just like the space shuttle program, determined by the US silly political system.
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ibm221
5/23/2012 2:29 AM EDT
coz a private firm's top concern is cost, not safety.
a safer equipment most time will cost more. how to balance it? govt could put some brake on it, but by how far ?
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KB3001
5/23/2012 5:19 AM EDT
In the 19th century, there were a series of parliamant acts in the UK to restrict/control the use of motor cars on British roads, because of safety concerns. In one of these acts, cars were restricted to travel at a maximum of 4 mph in the countryside and 2 mph in towns, and have a person walking ahead of the car, carrying a red flag to warn off pedestrians :-) Some say these acts held back the progress of British car industry for decades, allowing the Germans in particular to gain a considerable lead.
Safety concerns in space missions are real and I do personally share them, but if history is anything to go by, these concerns will probably look ridiculous in 50-60 years. Wish these folks the very best of luck!
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 9:38 AM EDT
Space travel is an entirely different and deadly game. We have cited critics who warn that SpaceX hasn't blown up enough rockets to know if it can safely carry humans to orbit. Other commercial space companies have an even bigger problem since their entire business model is based on space tourism. Someone is eventually going to be killed by a commercial space vendor, and the question is whether the industry can survive and move on. If you choose to spend a $1M for a suborbital flight, for example, you must acknowledge before leaving the ground that space travel is risky and you stand a decent chance of being killed.
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KB3001
5/23/2012 10:11 AM EDT
Many people died in the early days of the motor industry (and still do!) and the aforementioned parliament acts were all designed to prevent that. I was really struck by the fear factor of cars in the early days of the industry. In the same way, I think ultimately, we will conquer our fear and go for it in space. Whether this is it, or we will have to wait a bit longer is another matter....
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 9:33 AM EDT
NASA has never built rockets or spacecraft. It has always relied on American aerospace companies to build these machines. Our "silly political system" is now attempting to create some competition in a new commercial space industry. Lockheed Martin and Boeing are pioneers in this industry, and now they have competitors.
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kinnar
5/23/2012 5:44 AM EDT
What sort of Business Model is this?
US government is willing to outsource the space station maintenance?
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 9:22 AM EDT
Space travel to low Earth orbit, while still dangerous, is well understood. It does not push the state of the art. The U.S. space shuttle worked well, but it was an extremely complex, expensive machine built under the old "cost-plus" contract approach. Those days are over. It's time for NASA to focus on "going somewhere" in space and leave relatively routine tasks like space station flights to qualified commercial space companies. So far, SpaceX is the most qualified given what they have accomplished, not merely what they have promised.
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BLinder
5/23/2012 11:06 AM EDT
Hey did anyone say "Go USA", this is a great achievment, and I can only say at least we have a wealthy individual doing something risky at the expense of creating a profit down the road from the investment. Where is BG and WB in the equation of wealth but not filling the gaps in way-out technology development. Compare and contrast give some credit here!
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Duane Benson
5/23/2012 11:38 AM EDT
I'll say "Go USA" and "Go Humanity"! As messed up as things are in this country right now, someone can still be creative and determined, and endeavor to do great things regardless of whether they were born here or not. That gives me hope in our country and in our economy.
I haven't read NASA's actual mission statement, if they have one, but I would much rather my tax dollar go to probes to Pluto, robots on Mars and telescopes that can peer billion's of years into the past than to doing something that hasn't change all that much in 40 or 50 years.
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 1:32 PM EDT
The key word here is "risk." Few entrepreneurs have stuck their neck out farther than Elon Musk. Most of what he made on the sale of PayPal went directly into SpaceX, Tesla and SolarCity. While I have yet to be convinced that SpaceX is capable of designing a safe manned spacecraft, what they have so far managed to pull off is, to quote veteran space journalist Miles O'Brien, "tectonic."
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Dave.Dykstra
5/23/2012 11:54 AM EDT
I think we all hope that the rest of the mission goes as well as the start. It certainly provides new hope for the future of space exploration which I think many of us anticipate will see much commercial development as opposed to government development.
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 1:49 PM EDT
The latest on SpaceX mission to the International Space Station via Elon Musk's Twitter account (@elonmusk): "Dragon fly by of Space Station planned for 12:47 am California time. All systems green".
While the tweet did not indicate the date, it is presumably early Thursday (May 24).
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phlei
5/23/2012 3:19 PM EDT
I will say "Go USA" and the space travel or inter- continent travels with the rockets will be a reality sooner than we think. NASA did the R&Ds and the it is time for the commercial phase, just like the airplane travelling in the early days. Do you know how long it takes from one side of the earth to the other side of the earth like USA to Middle east or India, it is about twenty hour flight time but with the rocket going into the space and then come back, probably saves at least half or more the travelling time.
I always admire the risk taker like Elon Musk, he is the kind of person to explore the new frontiers, let us give him the due credit. Basically he single-handedly competes with other nations like China and Russia in the space exploration.
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george.leopold
5/23/2012 6:25 PM EDT
Here's video of what Friday's (May 25) scheduled "berthing" of the SpaceX Dragon cargo ship with the International Space Station would look like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEsbM3uYDE&feature=youtu.be
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ibm221
5/23/2012 9:01 PM EDT
this whole thing is confusing.
So NASA already have all the tech/know how/patents and asked this private firm to build a new set of vehicle. NASA have to hand over them some/all free IP, otherwise these won't happen, or spaceX need to blow 10+ rockets before all of these.
Is it true now all NASA IPs are free to the world? If there is a steady business model here Boening or Lockheed Martin are in a much better position to compete.
spaceX is like ... Netscape and boening like MS.
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ibm221
5/23/2012 9:36 PM EDT
the chinese govt would split out some NASA assets and set up a new state owned company to handle it, and create some competetion, which is just far more efficient.
such as telecom sector,
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george.leopold
5/24/2012 9:15 AM EDT
Dragon is 1.5 miles from the International Space.
Video courtesy of NASA:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=144472261
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