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Investigators zeroing in on China’s ZTE, Huawei
George Leopold, Junko Yoshida
7/13/2012 2:35 PM EDT
NEW YORK – With multiple investigations already underway in the U.S. and Europe targeting illegal sales to Iran by Chinese telecom giants ZTE and Huawei, reports surfaced in Friday (July 13) that the FBI is now probing whether ZTE sold U.S. computer equipment to Iran in violation of U.S. trade sanctions.
Citing a report on the Web site Smoking Gun, Reuters reported that a list of ZTE gear that was part of a $120 million contract included hardware and software made by Microsoft, HP, Oracle, Cisco, and Dell. The U.S. companies are not allowed to sell gear to Iran under U.S. export restrictions.
A Justice Department spokesman declined Friday to comment on the probe. Calls to the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security, which enforces U.S. export controls, were not returned. The agency’s Web site lists several enforcement actions related to illegal technology exports to both China and Iran.
Separately, the House Intelligence Committee has been investigating possible threats posed to U.S. national security by ZTE and Huawei. Lawmakers are concerned that the Chinese government could access Huawei or ZTE telecom equipment and track phone calls and e-mails or hack U.S. networks and disrupt a communications. Among the subjects being considered in the congressional probe are questions about work the two Chinese companies have done in Iran and their funding arrangements with the Chinese government.
The committee did not return phone calls for comment on the status of the probes.
Meanwhile, European Union investigations into Huawei and ZTE are largely focused on illegal government subsidies to the companies. The EU is said to be slowly gathering evidence regarding an anti-dumping case. Officials suspect Huawei and ZTE are using illegal government subsidies to sell products in the EU below cost in a bid to trump competitors by charging lower prices for equipment being marketed to service providers.
China, however, has maintained that the companies are innocent. Last month, Beijing called the EU's claims "groundless." Earlier this week, China threatened to retaliate for the EU probes by launching its own investigation into the business dealings of EU countries in China. Beijing cited EU’s subsidies given to European agriculture, automotive, renewable energy and telecoms companies.
The possibility of dueling trade probes underscores a combination of economic, trade and security issues that are coming to a head. The view here and in Europe is that China’s telecom gear vendors are making the most of government subsidies. The key national security concern is that equipment from Huawei and ZTE might contain trap doors that would allow the Chinese military to spy on U.S. and European communications.
Huawei’s founder and CEO, Ren Zhengfei, was an engineer in the People’s Liberation Army before setting up the company in 1987.
Both Chinese companies appear to be well aware of the growing perception problems they face in the West– both political and marketing -- as they target global markets. Huawei said this week it had hired Donald “Andy” Purdy, former chief cyber security strategist at U.S. military contractor CSC, as its chief security officer. According to the Washington Post, Huawei in recent years “has mounted an aggressive effort to change its image. It has hired lobbyists, consultants and a public relations firm in Washington.”
ZTE, China’s second largest telecom equipment vendor, holds a 4.2 percent global market share in the worldwide mobile device sales (in units) to end users, and is ranked in the first quarter as the number four – after Samsung, Nokia and Apple , according to Gartner.
Compared to Huawei – privately held and traditionally more focused on China’s domestic market, ZTE is publicly traded and it has been more aggressive in cultivating business abroad. In recent years, however, both Huawei and ZTE have been rapidly growing their presence in the global market.
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goafrit
7/13/2012 3:54 PM EDT
Very key problems for these companies. If they lose US market, they are done.
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FISH123
7/13/2012 4:16 PM EDT
Does HUAWEI sell productsto the US market? Should be minimum.
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goafrit
7/16/2012 2:18 PM EDT
But they may like to expand to U.S. if not the lobby power of Cisco
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junko.yoshida
7/13/2012 5:03 PM EDT
Yes, Huawei has been doing business in the U.S. market. Its phones have been sold by AT&T (although under AT&T brand); by Sprint and by T-Mobile for the last few years, under Huawei brand. Huawei also has a big ambition to move into the enterprise market in the U.S. The company launched an intiative to sell its products to American business market late last year. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/huawei-wants-to-sell-to-american-companies/
But you are right. Compared to other markets in the rest of the world, Huawei has yet to snatch up big contracts from the U.S. network operators.
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MikeSmith2011
7/13/2012 8:36 PM EDT
I am surprised it took the EU agencies this long to do something about it. The telecom vendors are being decimated by Huawei which has won BIG contracts in europe including britain by giving its h/w away and charging only for services.
In the US the networking giants Cisco and Juniper are having a hard time competing with Huawei again for similar reasons.
Every market they enter sees a huge price erosion which is good in the short term for the customers but long term this cannot be good for anybody.
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chanj
7/14/2012 6:22 PM EDT
Traditionally, country wants to have a trustworthy vendor for the communication infrastructure. Reasons include not only security but also reliability. As the market changes over the last decades, there are fewer and fewer products that can really be labeled "Made in U.S.A." The most proper Apple iPhone and iPad are all made in China. If China government wanted to spy on US communication through the supply of telecommunication equipments, would running through Foxconn be an easiest way? Don't get me wrong. I do believe better be safe than sorry. Who would really look for jeopardizing national security over saving a few bucks? I also believe there are more that can be done and shall be done to earn a peace of mind of buying/ using those equipments. In terms of pricing and competition, market will drive. If Huawei and ZTE are gaining market share solely on better price with sacrificing of quality, their products won't be in the market for a very long time. On the other hands, if they can product market of such price, why Cisco and other US companies can't? After all, we know market drives. My trouble is Americans suffers. Hopefully, not!
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nyh20028319
7/15/2012 12:11 AM EDT
I think you must work in HW or ZTE.
Good work in china.
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alfred95
7/14/2012 11:47 PM EDT
I think this is how US companies to protect their turf because they cannot win both technically and purely business wise
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george.leopold
7/15/2012 8:37 PM EDT
The U.S.-backed sanctions against Iran have clearly given U.S. investigators leverage in going after Chinese companies doing business with Iran. We noted several U.S.-based companies who have been prosecuted recently by the Justice Department under U.S. export control rules that have long prohibited commerce with Iran. The latest round of sanctions only amplify this.
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US Made
7/16/2012 7:08 PM EDT
Tough Talk. No Action. Keep talking it is free...
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GREAT-Terry
7/16/2012 11:15 PM EDT
Although Huawei and ZTE are really cutting the price tag down to compete with US companies like CISCO and Juniper, we can't just say they are selling junks. It is true that the labor cost in China is much lower and western country, but also that Chinese are much more hard working than any body else.
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wave.forest
7/17/2012 7:38 AM EDT
To some extent, they are smart and scary.
Should US open the market for Huawei and ZTE, many US network equipment companies, including CISCO and Juniper, would have a very difficult time.
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elctrnx_lyf
7/18/2012 12:15 AM EDT
I'm sceptical about this and really not sure how Huwaei and zte will come out of this blame without any big problems.
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