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Samsung plans ARM-based CPU for servers, says report
Peter Clarke
8/6/2012 10:27 AM EDT
LONDON – Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. is planning to introduce an ARM-based CPU for server applications in 2014, according to a Seoul Economic Daily report in Korean.
Intel currently holds 90 percent of the market for server processors, the report said.
Samsung is planning to introduce a very low-power processor aimed at the micro-server market as early as 2014, the report said.
Samsung already has ARM-based multicore processors for the smartphone market and is expected to have an ARM-based CPU for personal computers ready for the launch of the Windows 8 operating system by Microsoft Corp., in October, the report said.
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eewiz
8/6/2012 11:31 AM EDT
2014?
So many companies are already aiming at this market with multi core ARM chipsets. Why not go and buy one of them?
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rick.merritt
8/6/2012 12:13 PM EDT
It's a hot emerging market and a lot of ARM SoC makers want a piece of it including Nvidia, Samsung and newcomers such as Calxeda and Applied Micro.
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goafrit
8/6/2012 12:40 PM EDT
It has great margins and with Samsung scale, they can compete with anyone. It is also good that Intel sees competitions.
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rick.merritt
8/6/2012 12:11 PM EDT
EE Times had a scoop on this a few months ago, detailing how Samsung is building an ARM server CPU team in Austin.
See http://confidential.eetimes.com/news-updates/4236448/Samsung--Huawei-Pursue-Low-Power-Servers
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memxprt
8/6/2012 1:38 PM EDT
This better be the 64-bit architecture as the ARM 32-bit Cortex family (A9/A15) simply won't cut it.
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rick.merritt
8/6/2012 9:16 PM EDT
ARM 32-bit is OK for some limited apps, but yeah for the long haul they want the new V8 64-bit architecture and it is coming in 2013 from Applied, Nvidia and probably others
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Samuel.Schooler
8/6/2012 7:55 PM EDT
What a joke! Have you ever tried one of the ARM netbooks? They are really sad! Extremely poor performance. Now they are going to try servers? Good luck with that :) lol
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MikeSmith2011
8/6/2012 9:09 PM EDT
They will need newer processors here. The mobile processors will not cut it.
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rick.merritt
8/6/2012 9:17 PM EDT
Of course, and they are coming
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rick.merritt
8/6/2012 9:17 PM EDT
Dell and HP are not scoffing
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MikeSmith2011
8/6/2012 9:25 PM EDT
This will be an interesting battle to watch - Samsung vs. Intel mano-a-mano. No longer the little guys trying to land a smooth pebble between Intel's eyes - this is a giant taking on another - both with deep pockets, their own fabs and Samsung has access to technology that Intel does not - namely DRAM, Flash etc.
I wonder how long it is going to take Samsung to come out with a part. Do they have an architecture license or are they just using ARM's cores.
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HS_SemiPro
8/6/2012 11:05 PM EDT
Intel has research partnership and joint fab with Micron. And Intel has dabbled with flash.
So they have these hand in DRAM & flash,
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loopback127
8/7/2012 12:38 PM EDT
Samuel.Schooler,
ARM processors scale horizontally very well and they are cheaper per computing hour. I'm certain we're going to have 1U, 100+ 64bit core systems that are 90 percent more energy efficient in 2K14.
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markhahn
8/7/2012 2:29 PM EDT
I'm curious where your optimism comes from. for instance, are you assuming some kind of breakthrough in cache effectiveness, or do you have some "server" workload which is not IO-intensive? the classic example of cache-friendly workloads is, of course, GPUs, but surely that's not the direction you're thinking.
current arm systems are moderately hobbled by their low-power, low-width memory systems, even simply 4-core versions. it's hard to imagine how one could expect to put 25x more compute on chip without requiring an unreasonably wide memory system.
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ARandomPerson
8/8/2012 1:14 AM EDT
These days, common practice of Licensing Enterprise SW for Servers is cost-per/core basis. ARM throughput is less than Intel throughput, on per/core basis. That means, we need more ARM cores for same job, thus increasing SW cost.
Cost-Per/Cycle model also not uniform, because, Intel processors do more operations per cycle than ARM. May be Cost-Per/GFLOP is slightly better?
Is an NVIDIA's Fermi 512-core GPU treated as 1-core, or, god-forbid, 512-core?
With Server HW changing from simple CPU core-count model towards custom-processors or GPU, these licensing models may also be changing.
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