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Big.little test results show promise, ARM reports
Rick Merritt
11/5/2012 2:07 AM EST
SANTA CLARA, Calif. – ARM reported a test chip using its A15 and A7 cores saved 50 percent on power consumption without sacrificing performance. It also revealed a road map for enabling software for the so-called big.little initiative which pairs a large and small core.
The technology looks promising enough that even some chip makers outside the ARM ecosystem—such as Intel—might consider adopting it, said one analyst. Samsung is expected to sample the first big.little SoC, perhaps before the end of the year. Several chip makers have similar SoCs in development, said ARM.

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“Big.little is moving from a promising technology to something we think will be ubiquitous in low power systems, and we are quite happy with the progress so far,” said Brian Jeff, a product manager for ARM in a presentation on the topic at the ARM Tech Con here.
“There’s a lot of tuning to be done, but its working quite well today, we are a bit ahead of where we expected to be last year,” he added.
Big.little is based on an analysis of today’s mobile workloads. It showed they are divided into many relatively low performance apps that can be handled on a low power core and a few high performance ones that sometimes need a brawnier core. Big.little uses software that automates the job of choosing which job to run on which core to get work done quickly but with minimal energy.
Software developers at ARM and Linaro are currently working on two big.little modes.
A CPU Migration mode moves jobs between clusters of cores, has working software available now that will be ready for production before June. A big.little MP approach can assign individual threads to the best core, promises better results but requires more tuning and is in an earlier stage of development,
Separately, Jeff said the A15 probably will deliver about twice the performance of today’s A9, and the A7 will about match the A9 in performance. ARM’s test chip (below) used two A15s and three A7s with a DMC-400 memory controller all on a cache coherent interconnect in a 40 nm process.
“The MP stuff that I thought was rocket science when they talked about it last year is coming along quite well--that’s kind of the Holy Grail here,” said Kevin Krewell, editor of the Microprocessor Report. “Intel has the capability to do something like this with Atom, Core and Xeon cores,” he said.

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The technology looks promising enough that even some chip makers outside the ARM ecosystem—such as Intel—might consider adopting it, said one analyst. Samsung is expected to sample the first big.little SoC, perhaps before the end of the year. Several chip makers have similar SoCs in development, said ARM.

Click on image to enlarge.
“Big.little is moving from a promising technology to something we think will be ubiquitous in low power systems, and we are quite happy with the progress so far,” said Brian Jeff, a product manager for ARM in a presentation on the topic at the ARM Tech Con here.
“There’s a lot of tuning to be done, but its working quite well today, we are a bit ahead of where we expected to be last year,” he added.
Big.little is based on an analysis of today’s mobile workloads. It showed they are divided into many relatively low performance apps that can be handled on a low power core and a few high performance ones that sometimes need a brawnier core. Big.little uses software that automates the job of choosing which job to run on which core to get work done quickly but with minimal energy.
Software developers at ARM and Linaro are currently working on two big.little modes.
A CPU Migration mode moves jobs between clusters of cores, has working software available now that will be ready for production before June. A big.little MP approach can assign individual threads to the best core, promises better results but requires more tuning and is in an earlier stage of development,
Separately, Jeff said the A15 probably will deliver about twice the performance of today’s A9, and the A7 will about match the A9 in performance. ARM’s test chip (below) used two A15s and three A7s with a DMC-400 memory controller all on a cache coherent interconnect in a 40 nm process.
“The MP stuff that I thought was rocket science when they talked about it last year is coming along quite well--that’s kind of the Holy Grail here,” said Kevin Krewell, editor of the Microprocessor Report. “Intel has the capability to do something like this with Atom, Core and Xeon cores,” he said.

Click on image to enlarge.
Related stories:
ARM's 'Big-Little' Strategy and the Manycore Puzzle
ARM TechCon to tip 'big-little' processors
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wsw1982
11/5/2012 5:15 AM EST
That's different form what observed from Samsung Chromebook and Nexus 10. The Exynos 5 is power hungry.
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rick.merritt
11/5/2012 10:15 AM EST
The Samsung Exynos 5 uses two A15 cores which are pretty power hungry.
In the A7/A15 big.little approach, the A7 does most of the work and the A15 just powers up a minority of the time to blast through intense jobs. That should cut power by 150% or more, ARM estimates.
Now I wonder, will Intel adopt this concept in mobile?
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glennthera
11/5/2012 11:53 AM EST
Thanks 4 d update Rick, been waiting on some news frm ARM n Samsung 4 a long, long time! big.Little is d future of processors, not jst SOC designs!
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danny1024
11/5/2012 3:15 PM EST
There have been many research projects that have looked at combining Atom and "big cores" e.g. Ivy Bridge and Haswell as well as ARM processors to handle low-level OS functions and some applications while the bigger cores are sleeping. In fact, I think Dell had a laptop that had both "ARM & Intel Inside" to do roughly the same thing.
The A15 is a hot, complex chip that's not particularly performant for the power nor does it yield particularly well. That A7 companion chip and the entire Big.Little concept is a tacit admission of that regrettable reality.
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rick.merritt
11/5/2012 4:06 PM EST
Can any share some performance per watt data they have seen on an A15?
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danny1024
11/6/2012 11:49 AM EST
I'll ask around but I can tell you that many of the A15 licensees are greatly disappointed with its perf/watt and associated manufacturability issues.
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help.fulguy
11/10/2012 2:15 PM EST
@ Rick, a Dual core A15 @ 2GHz in our lab is consuming 4W. Mind you, this is just the CPU Cores. When we add the Graphics, Video and IOs, you are looking at around 6-7W. ARM is in big trouble. This big.Little is just a hog-wash. Unless we see this from a 3rd party, I cant believe 50% improvement. ARM CEO can say Power this and power that, but his ARM Cores are getting worse by day.
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zeewee
11/19/2012 11:37 PM EST
I think it's more efficient to improve its power saving mode such as Intel's CPU's C-state.
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