The Samsung Exynos 5 uses two A15 cores which are pretty power hungry.
In the A7/A15 big.little approach, the A7 does most of the work and the A15 just powers up a minority of the time to blast through intense jobs. That should cut power by 150% or more, ARM estimates.
Now I wonder, will Intel adopt this concept in mobile?
There have been many research projects that have looked at combining Atom and "big cores" e.g. Ivy Bridge and Haswell as well as ARM processors to handle low-level OS functions and some applications while the bigger cores are sleeping. In fact, I think Dell had a laptop that had both "ARM & Intel Inside" to do roughly the same thing.
The A15 is a hot, complex chip that's not particularly performant for the power nor does it yield particularly well. That A7 companion chip and the entire Big.Little concept is a tacit admission of that regrettable reality.
@ Rick, a Dual core A15 @ 2GHz in our lab is consuming 4W. Mind you, this is just the CPU Cores. When we add the Graphics, Video and IOs, you are looking at around 6-7W. ARM is in big trouble. This big.Little is just a hog-wash. Unless we see this from a 3rd party, I cant believe 50% improvement. ARM CEO can say Power this and power that, but his ARM Cores are getting worse by day.
wsw1982
11/5/2012 5:15 AM EST
That's different form what observed from Samsung Chromebook and Nexus 10. The Exynos 5 is power hungry.
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rick.merritt
11/5/2012 10:15 AM EST
The Samsung Exynos 5 uses two A15 cores which are pretty power hungry.
In the A7/A15 big.little approach, the A7 does most of the work and the A15 just powers up a minority of the time to blast through intense jobs. That should cut power by 150% or more, ARM estimates.
Now I wonder, will Intel adopt this concept in mobile?
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glennthera
11/5/2012 11:53 AM EST
Thanks 4 d update Rick, been waiting on some news frm ARM n Samsung 4 a long, long time! big.Little is d future of processors, not jst SOC designs!
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danny1024
11/5/2012 3:15 PM EST
There have been many research projects that have looked at combining Atom and "big cores" e.g. Ivy Bridge and Haswell as well as ARM processors to handle low-level OS functions and some applications while the bigger cores are sleeping. In fact, I think Dell had a laptop that had both "ARM & Intel Inside" to do roughly the same thing.
The A15 is a hot, complex chip that's not particularly performant for the power nor does it yield particularly well. That A7 companion chip and the entire Big.Little concept is a tacit admission of that regrettable reality.
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rick.merritt
11/5/2012 4:06 PM EST
Can any share some performance per watt data they have seen on an A15?
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danny1024
11/6/2012 11:49 AM EST
I'll ask around but I can tell you that many of the A15 licensees are greatly disappointed with its perf/watt and associated manufacturability issues.
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help.fulguy
11/10/2012 2:15 PM EST
@ Rick, a Dual core A15 @ 2GHz in our lab is consuming 4W. Mind you, this is just the CPU Cores. When we add the Graphics, Video and IOs, you are looking at around 6-7W. ARM is in big trouble. This big.Little is just a hog-wash. Unless we see this from a 3rd party, I cant believe 50% improvement. ARM CEO can say Power this and power that, but his ARM Cores are getting worse by day.
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zeewee
11/19/2012 11:37 PM EST
I think it's more efficient to improve its power saving mode such as Intel's CPU's C-state.
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