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All four pillars are important, but security and connectivity top the list.

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Electronic engineer...Smart Grid

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We are actually using microcontroller-based solutions.

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lvy bridge solutions

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embedded solutions

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Relevant Intel Intelligent Systems Framework (ISF) links:

Intel Intelligent Systems Framework page: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/intelligent-systems.html

 

Intel Embedded Design Center (registration required):

https://www-ssl.intel.com/p/en_US/embedded/login?

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There are missing slide numbers after slide 9.

 

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I'm an embedded software engineer, but my role would also include systems engineering.  If we can procure off the shelf products that meet our requirements then we will not design in house.  As a systems engineer, then security is obviously high, then I would say manageability.  Connectivity is up front in making our choices.   Performance is less of an issue for us.

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Sorry..missed the presentation today.

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Cant trust being anonymous anymore. Stuxnet taught us that.

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Anyway - I gotta go - see you all tomorrow

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Yes - that is what makes this industry so fascination. There is NO one right answer!

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Yes - and we are now creating systems of instruments - a bunch of instrument systems all connected together via the web.  Very concerened about security now....

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I could go on for hours on that one.

No tougher than with any other technology

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Yes - medical has some very specific demands as well - lifetime, security, and has to be highly trusted. You dont want someone downloading malicious software into your pacemaker!

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@mclaus Agreed. Tough to get a 510K though

Medical devices are similiar.  Safety critical - real time sensative - harsh environment - multiprocessor distributed systems.  We are repurposing quite a lot of automotive technology.

Thanks again all - see you tomorrow

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Thanks and see everyone tomorrow. Will stick around for a few more minutes in case there are other questions.

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Brian, thanks for an informative session today.  See everyone tomorrow!

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Cars are where we will probably see huge advances happening. While they happened in the phone sooner, the potential for change there is more limited. Phomnes have been multi-processor for ever (almost).

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I took the evilin woodhead sped tipping class, too

@Jeffrey - I cant type either. Writing 7 books hasn't helped me learn.

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HaHa - Cars are good examples for me - our systems are similar

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@Jeffrey - yes, the bus is often the bottleneck in a system and you have to try and keep things in cache when possible. Shared memory usually cause cache flushes that do slow performance.

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Typing is not my thing today.

carefully not carfully. Got carried away with the automative example I guess.

Of course, shared memory also create a potentially bigger security hole. Have to be careful what and how data is sent.

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It needs to be designed carfully to avoid memory bus bottlenecks.

 

@mclaus - there are probably several ways including shared memory or using interfaces such as IPC. These are both generic in that they dont have to know where they are running. Shared memory is faster but does require some platform specific to be known, but IPC is slower.

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Usually a shared memory scheme is used to communicate between virtiual machines

@huzi - sorry I cant see the list so dont know who is here.

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What are the typical mechanisms for communicating between virtual environments?  If I put GUI process in one, and some sensor/actuator loops in another - how do they typically share information?

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Quantum computing - Dont know. IN some applications it may be an interesting way to go. Digital/binary computation is not particularly efficient, neither is synchronous design. The industry tends to design what it knows and has good tools for.

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hey someone here

from qualcomm?

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Brain - brian- thanks for the confusion. I suddenly feel more intelligent :)

 

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Do you feel Quantum computing will do away with current processor architecture?

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Virtualization also enables you to get better utilization of the processors and that can lead to lower total power consumption. A processor consumes power when idle.

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@lyrad - what a complex question! If you are concerned about scheduling as part of the design phase, many companies are now deploying virtual prototypes where they can assess their communications needs and measure expected response times. I not sure there is an easy way to do it.

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JuanP - also, consider that as processors become more powerful there is incentive to consolidate embedded systems. Virtualization allows embedded systems of different criticalities to share a (multi-)processor without jeopardy.

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@Jeffrey - yes, no time to talk about all of the possibilities. It is tough to decide what to cram into 1/2 slots. Wish each segment could be spread out so that real examples could be given.

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@satyaanarayana: I assume you meant Brian although he does have a very smart brain.  :-)

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thank u brian and others for the answers.

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Good day from (not raining right now where I am) Portland, OR.

Any tricks for reducing the effort requied to determine the appropriate level of connectivity to maintain security while meeting other requirements?

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@JuanP - I also gave the example of the car. Centralization of processing removed long latency communications necessary for things such as direct car control. You would not use a single core  for this because of real time constraints and security reasons.

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@JuanP think of virualization in as the next step above processes in your OS. You use processes to separate out functionality. Add another dimention to that and you have virtialization.

 

@mclaus - you are totally right. The SW should be oblivious to anything re4lated to the execution platform and that includes the virtualization environment.

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Trusted execution is just one layer of secxurity - and I will talk about that - tomorrow - I think.

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Am I correct in assuming that many (most?) of these types of processor features are usually not exercised by application SW directly - but are usually utilized primarily by some kind of middle ware - OS or 3rd party library?

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Open Source VM:  XEN, KVM, VirtualBox , OpenVZ, LGuest

From CIO Australia mag.

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Can you give examples of how virtualization might help in embedded systems? I still do not see a strong case for it. Your example in server farms is not a good embedded system example, it is a typical IT system.

 

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Another path is for companies like ARM who make their processor available as IP. Then Semiconductor companies can make custom chips for particular applications. This requires higher volumes than standard CPU parts.

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will trusted execution of proceessor parameter ease our security layer implementation?

 

On slide 12 you show a type 2 hypervisor. For reliability and performance whouldn't a type 1 hypervisor be better?

 

Remember that a system is more than justy a processor - it needs other supporting hardware. There are many industrial companies that boards and systems suitable for industrial apps, or automotive applications.

 

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very informative session, thanks

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Intel works very closely with Wind River and other OS companies. we will talk about some of the interactions in the session on Friday.

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Open Source virtual -- like XEN ?

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Brian,what are the open source virtualization packages available?

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Interesting session thanks

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Thanks Alex and Brian.

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Thank you Brain for nice presentaion.

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thanks, an other great webinar!

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Sotrry about the slide numbers dissapearing. Not sure what happened.

 

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Thanks Brian and Alex. A good session today with more food for thought. See all tomorrow.

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Thank you for Today's presentation!

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what are the open source virtualization packages available?

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Many of these core features are only exercised by an RTOS, not typically by applications directly.  Is intel working with any of the RTOS vendors to maximize the benefits of these features?

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Safety Critical Medical Devices (opthalmic surgical instrument systems)

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What about small cost systems like Raspberry Pi, beagle or Arduino? Are they suitable for industrial apps?

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Brian, could you briefly speak to Quantum computing compared to current next-gen processors?

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@mclaus: The hypervisor is usually responsible for multiplexing requests from multiple VMs to the single physical instance of the hardware.  This is very important for things like I/O mapped access to PCI bus where an access actually requires two transactions.

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FYI, slides 10-14 are missing the slide number at the bottom.
(this is in the Manageability Pilliar ;-)

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Do not use virtualization

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@Lyrad: Using virtualization at system firmware level

That is way beyond my paygrade -- I'm impressed!

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How do common I/O resources get shared between virtual environments?

 

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Not using virtualization at all (one minor exception short term). Have considered it but... may not be owrth effort in our environment.

Maybe a longer look is required.

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I use the Wind River Hypervisor

Using virtualization at system firmware level to allow fault management in spite of what the RTOS/OS and higher-level virtualization engines want to do.

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It depends upon how the virtualization manager allocates the underlying phsical assets.  Some RTOS provides each virtual environment a guaranteed amount of resouce.

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Large scale mainframe with 100's of linux images

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 I use VMWare virtualization for running Virtual Appliaces and running older applications

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We are not using Virtualization in our non-IT systems.

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using a Win/XT VM on Win7 for legacy software

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Projects related to integration/monitoring of industrial/remote sensors to web/cloud apps.

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Currently working on sensor packs of software for factory sensing plus vibration sensors for low frequency. Also working on the data collection model with data servers ethernet and DB servers on Linux. The whole architecture I guess.

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I'll be using NXP Micro for Automotive CAN/LIN Networks.

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Wireless communicating distributed measuring systems

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future projects involve Guided Wave RADAR for liquid level guaging. potentialy heavy signal processing.

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Custom communications systems for mining applications

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Automotive management system

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Ecofriendly projects, Pollution controlling ideas.Biometric security

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Safety Critical Medical Devices (opthalmic surgical instrument systems)

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Working on RADAR systems.

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We use Intel processors

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It's exciting to think of the amazing super-computers that will be created with these new 22NM and smaller processors!

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We use INTEL Processor. Don't know what type.

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Many of these core features are only exercised by an RTOS, not typically by applications directly.  Is intel working with any of the RTOS vendors to maximize the benefits of these features?

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Currently using Intel (8 through 32-bit), Tilera, ARM, Zilog

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Arm/cortex core 32 bit M0 -M3

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Currently using CORTEX M3/M4 MSP430 C200 from TI for Servers Large scale AMD servers Intel and AMD for windows workstations same for Linux servers and Data servers.

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Intel, PPC, ARM Cortex A9, ARM Cortex A4

good afternoon, everyone

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What about ARM processors? Are they suitable for this app types?

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We have been using Intel and Freescale.  32 bit, multicore (x2 or x4).

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Using Xeon 5600 series now, thanks for the FYI on the E7!

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Frescale HC12, Microblaze

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IE works well with me. My company uses Windows 7 Enterpise.

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AMD Vision PRO and Intel Quad-Core, Intel I5

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MSP430 family for embedded processing/control

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Neither my Chrome nor Firefox work well in my system. They will begin playing several minutes after I press the play button (Win 7)

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@lyrad -- I agree -- I have built manufacturing systems that could rebuild themselves -- both program and data --  if servers or data collection failed. The processors and network must support the eHealth part ad the security -- they cannot provide it.

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I've heard of Xeon E5 but the slide shows "E7"?

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Brian, do you feel that higher and higher powered CPUs eventually do away with the need for seperate video cards or GPUs?

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Do not use IE. Chrome works well

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I don't think the point is that the chips provide the solutions for the four pillars, but how well do they enable implementation of the four pillars.

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@Az My Chrome works fine. :-)

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ya. chips don't offer mnagebility. i agree that. manageability comes with the environment. well said sir.

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Check out Tilera, they cover all four pillars.  They are a bit expensive unless you need 32 or more cores.

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Are any other vendors creating processors that include aspects of all 4 pillars?  FreeScale? 

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What is the alternative to Intel in this area?

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Audio works several minutes (>10min) after a press the play button with Chrome and Firefox

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Electrical Engineering and Software development background, interested in cloud applications and embedded systems

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Educator, researcher, consultant, standards body participant. Security and Safety.

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Security definately, although they all work hand-in-hand.

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@za try firefox it works like a charm

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Calgary AB - Consulting engineering (HW/SW)

 

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Sriram-Embedded Developer.

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Audio only works with IE...for a short while, then it stops, I have to constantly press the play button Flash Player 11.4.402.287

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From Toronto ON - Integration Consultant, Technology Advocate.

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Rookie from NY, Electrical Engineering, no current embedded project.  God day all.

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Electrical Engineer from Istanbul, sup everyone

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Radiation/Reliability Engineer from New Jersey

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If you have the "Right Stuff"...

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When you make the team...

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When do we stop being ROOKIE's?

 

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What langauge is that Jeffrey?

 

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Good morning everybody.  Southern California.

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Good Morning afternoon all

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Good evening from Iasi

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good morning all from Edmonton, Alberta

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Ready for a new webinar. This sure beats traveling.

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A rainy day in Portland, but that will not stop us from having fun!

 

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Be sure to right-click and save to your desktop 'Today's Slide Deck' under Special Educational Materials above right to download the PowerPoint for today's session. Brian will talk through the slides during his lecture.

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The streaming audio player will appear on this web page when the show starts at 2pm eastern today. Note however that some companies block live audio streams. If when the show starts you don't hear any audio, refresh your browser and the player should appear. Also, if IE doesn't "like" the player, try Firefox.

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GOOD MORNING. Silicon Valley, CA

Rainy today. It's 58°F now and High of 61°F.

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Great week session

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I can't wait to start.

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