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normannie   6/18/2014 7:39:23 AM
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The Wise EE   4/3/2008 1:10:11 AM
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You're lucky you got to work with the same employer for 27 years. Approximately half the engineers in my location work contract because there are no permanent jobs available. I've personally known hundreds and hundreds of engineers who've been laid off. You're not unusual. Its especially tough on those a few years away from retirement to get the axe which routinely happens. They're left scrambling. No one will hire them, they're too young to collect social security and they're forced to spend any savings they do have to survive. Yet, the corporate sweatshops and their bought and paid for congressmen keep complaining about a non-existent shortage of engineers. I've been in the business 25 years and they've always been complaining about shortages but there's never been one. We're always but one step away from the next layoff. But they've got to keep those college class seats filled. Then they've got this H1B lunacy to drive salaries into the ground. Also, you're right. Any engineer that's been around more than a few years is SCREWED if they get the pink slip. The highly specialized skills of engineers don't transfer to other jobs. So I'm warning every high school graduate I know to stay away from engineering. Its a disgusting career to get trapped in, especially when other more lucrative and permanent options in law, medicine, pharmacy, insurace, etc., etc. are available. Even real estate is better. No matter how bad it gets, real estate and real estate jobs will come back in a year or two. However, in engineering, most jobs get offshored and, unlike real estate, in engineering if you're unemployed more than a couple of years, you become technically obsolete. Then, you'll be competing with high school grads for jobs flipping hamburgers. And contrary to what many claim, employers won't train you for anything except how to fill out the unemployment paperwork. Its far easier for them to hire an H1B, pay them far less and train them instead of you. There isn't much we can do. With 25+ years in the industry its too late for us. All we can do is try to survive. In addition, we can try to warn those considering an engineering career to find something else. Most engineering veterans know that the younger generation be much, much better off in another profession. Steve

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The Wise EE   4/3/2008 1:10:06 AM
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You're lucky you got to work with the same employer for 27 years. Approximately half the engineers in my location work contract because there are no permanent jobs available. I've personally known hundreds and hundreds of engineers who've been laid off. You're not unusual. Its especially tough on those a few years away from retirement to get the axe which routinely happens. They're left scrambling. No one will hire them, they're too young to collect social security and they're forced to spend any savings they do have to survive. Yet, the corporate sweatshops and their bought and paid for congressmen keep complaining about a non-existent shortage of engineers. I've been in the business 25 years and they've always been complaining about shortages but there's never been one. We're always but one step away from the next layoff. But they've got to keep those college class seats filled. Then they've got this H1B lunacy to drive salaries into the ground. Also, you're right. Any engineer that's been around more than a few years is SCREWED if they get the pink slip. The highly specialized skills of engineers don't transfer to other jobs. So I'm warning every high school graduate I know to stay away from engineering. Its a disgusting career to get trapped in, especially when other more lucrative and permanent options in law, medicine, pharmacy, insurace, etc., etc. are available. Even real estate is better. No matter how bad it gets, real estate and real estate jobs will come back in a year or two. However, in engineering, most jobs get offshored and, unlike real estate, in engineering if you're unemployed more than a couple of years, you become technically obsolete. Then, you'll be competing with high school grads for jobs flipping hamburgers. And contrary to what many claim, employers won't train you for anything except how to fill out the unemployment paperwork. Its far easier for them to hire an H1B, pay them far less and train them instead of you. There isn't much we can do. With 25+ years in the industry its too late for us. All we can do is try to survive. In addition, we can try to warn those considering an engineering career to find something else. Most engineering veterans know that the younger generation be much, much better off in another profession. Steve

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re: Fewer engineers unemployed, but total number of jobs shrinks
dekoehn   4/1/2008 1:32:14 AM
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That's because their unemployment expired & they're even more screwed now than they were before. Are you GD clowns for real ??? We were setup before we even got out of college & it's getting worse & you GD clowns are CLUELESS !?!?! All my friends have been laid off, some for good !?!?! I've been laid-off from a job I worked at for 27 YEARS & I'm SCREWED !?!?! Here's more ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20080331/bs_bw/mar2008db20080330182808 Another Wave of H-1Bs on the Way By Moira Herbst Mon Mar 31, 8:08 AM ET When are you GD clowns going to get serious about a REAL UNION like the ABA & AMA !?!?! I would have done ANYTHING ELSE if I knew it was going to turn out like this !?!?! Don Koehn, Burton, Ohio



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