Great article... though it wasnt too good to use Dewey as an example. Dewey was a subversive communist, and was found out when the venona transcripts were decoded.
here are some others..
"[Radical/leftist] Whitman and [atheist/humanist] Dewey tried to substitute hope for knowledge. They wanted to put shared utopian dreams-dreams of an ideally decent and civilized society-in the place of knowledge of God's Will, Moral Law, the Laws of History, or the Facts of Science...As long as we have a functioning political left, we still have a chance to achieve our country, to make it the country of Whitman's and Dewey's dreams." Richard Rorty, Achieving Our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth-Century America, p. 106, 7.
Doesnt sound like someone that helped education... in fact our education system is moribund BECAUSE of his changes to the system and incorporation of ideology over education.. (or havent you figured out why over 40 years we cant get to where we were?)
"In Dewey-disciple George S. Counts' Dare the School Build a New Social Order? he declared that 'teachers should deliberately reach for power and then make the most of their conquest [so as to] influence the social ideals, attitudes, and behavior of the coming generation.' Trust in Providence, he said, must be replaced through careful planning, capitalism would 'have to be displaced altogether...or changed radically,' and attitudes would have to be recast through education." B.K. Eakman, p. 127, 8.
"Most Americans believe that Russian education was highly academic despite its political propagandizing. They would be surprised to learn that one of Lenin's first official acts was to eliminate examinations, homework, failure and punishment, as well as to collectivize (consolidate) the schools. Even more remarkably, he began disseminating the works of [John] Dewey! By 1924, Soviet education theorists were saying that holding the correct view-points, including a 'collective spirit,' was more important than substantive knowledge. Indeed, the first Communist Five-Year Plan in 1927 included several education provisions aimed at building the 'new socialism' that was going to usher in a worker's paradise. Today, experts in America say something similar, that it will usher in a new era of competitiveness, prosperity and lead to less world conflict. New promises; same old collective philosophy." B. K Eakman, p. 134.
'The ultimate problem of all education,' wrote [John] Dewey, 'is to coordinate the psychological and social factor...' Dewey further stated that schools should 'take an active part in determining the social order of the future' and that teachers should align themselves with forces of social and economic control...By the late 1940s, Teachers' College at Columbia University had become the vehicle for spreading the wisdom of the collective." B. K. Eakman, p. 121. (Dewey was a founder of the Intercollegiate Socialist Society and president of the League of Industrial Democracy.) (Dewey was also a signatory of Humanist Manifesto in 1933.)
you can find early work that says that Dewey was an anticommunist... but thats before they decoded the transcripts.
singlehandedly he helped to create a situation in which the US went from number 1 and now is way down the list... with companies claiming that the kids are uneducated... i work in a medical college and we get potential doctors that cant read past 8th grade, or think independently.
"Out of this milieu in 1919 came New York City?s New School for Social Research, dedicated to teaching manifestations of socialism in all academic disciplines. Among its founders were historian Charles Beard, economists Thorstein Veblen and James Harvey Robinson, and philosopher John Dewey, all active and avowed socialists."
so rather than a hero... he is the opposite and has not improved schooling by removing the teachings of the west, fomenting sex ed earlier and earlier, teaching ideology to mould the new communist man from the schools.
"You can't make socialists out of individualists. Children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society" - John Dewey, "the father of modern education," - avowed socialist, co-author of the "Humanist Manifesto." & member of 15 Marxist front organizations.
the ones who really focused on doing were the greek philosphers... who are now dead white guys we dont learn from any more.
other than this falst step...
the rest of your stuff is awesomely good!!!!
one last cut out...
the ethical foundation of the Progressive Movement: a contempt and loathing of "individualism" -- and its political expression in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution:
§ Croly: "The Promise of American Life is to be fulfilled ... by a large measure of individual subordination and self-denial."
§ Sociologist Lester Ward: "The individual has reigned long enough."
§ Antitrust leader Henry Demarest Lloyd: Individualism is "one of the historic mistakes of humanity."
§ The Outlook editor Lyman Abbott: "[I]ndividualism is the characteristic of simple barbarism, not of republican civilization."
§ Baptist minister Walter Rauschenbusch: "[I]ndividualism means tyranny."
So great was this fear of the individual that John Dewey believed that the "mere absorbing of facts and truths is so exclusively individual an affair that it tends very naturally to pass into selfishness." "Progressive education" was developed to meet the individualist threat on the juvenile level
Really sad reading comments like yours, Artfldgr, on 2007 claiming that Comunist is cause of all bad things in the world and even surprinsingly, in US!!!
Incredible to read that just one guy is the cause of the incredibly bad education system in US.
Astonished that the cause is because the guy was comunist, because it's a fact that comunist countries had a great system education in terms of knowledge, or least people had a great knowledge on science and maths.
Ashame that somebody is able to use in a public and international site sentences like: "white guys".
Dejected about knowing that there is people who doesn't know yet that comunism and socialism are really different.
?Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.?
?Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.?
?He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.?
?The universities are available only to those who share my revolutionary beliefs.?
?Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don?t allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas??
?When one makes a Revolution, one cannot mark time; one must always go forward - or go back. He who now talks about the ?freedom of the press? goes backward, and halts our headlong course towards Socialism.?
obviously, they think socialism is the same, too bad they didnt talk to you medulius.
?There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.?
?How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.?
?Democracy is the road to socialism.?
?Democracy is indispensable to socialism.?
?The day of individual happiness has passed.?
?All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all. I am just like everybody else.?
?I think that a man should not live beyond the age when he begins to deteriorate, when the flame that lighted the brightest moment of his life has weakened.?
?It is true that liberty is precious - so precious that it must be rationed.?
?We must confront the privileged elite who have destroyed a large part of the world.?
personally i think its sad that you side with them... than with someone who sides with liberty FOR ALL...
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As to the Artful Dodger, as he appears to call himself, his rant is quite amusing and entertaining - An individualist, much as his namesake (but hopefully not a thief?), but he obviously doesn't understand all his quotes, eg:
"All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all. I am just like everybody else."
In this Vlad was referring to the cult of the individual, i.e. those who slavishly raised their leaders such as Mr Stalin and himself and treated them as heros, and saying that they were mistaken, that he is just an individual like everyone else, not some saint or superhero.
I suspect that many of the other quotes are equally out of context, but also suspect that Mr Dodgy Dodger probably thinks that "Liberal" is a term of insult.
Please remember that Philosophy and Philosophers deal in shades of gray. Any attempt to study the subject with any seriousness quickly reveals this fact. Aside from the most basic axiomatic facts, right and wrong answers simply do not exist, though we all wish they did. Quoting snippets from your favorite contentious Philosophers is usually very inappropriate, probably worse than citing phrases from the Bible. If you believe in the First Amendment in our constitution you must respect their right to their own thoughts and opinions despite whatever you might think about those thoughts and opinions.
Carl Marx made many good points about the dark sides of capitalism- if you actually take the time to read it and set aside the brainwashing we've all received. He also made some pretty stupid suggestions about communism.
It's up to all of us to see what sticks and what doesn't for us individually. That process is called thinking and being an individual, and what true Philosophy is all about.
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