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IBelieve
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IBelieve   8/21/2009 5:34:12 PM
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This article is STUPID! It's summer in Texas. It's 100 degrees outside. You mix 100,000 people with 100 degrees and you don't think you don't need air conditioning? If you use a little common sense, do you thnk the bills will be that high in January? While I don't belive that man is causing global warming, I do believe that we have to be good stewards of our resouces. This is just left leaning tree hugging that belongs back in California. The stadium is Awesome! From and electrical engieering standpoint, there is a lot of technology embedded in the stadium that will set the standards for stadiums to come. That's what this story should be about. Let's promote technology and use of it to better all of our community, enhance our jobs, and drive innovation.

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jayfender   8/21/2009 5:25:35 PM
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How is the entire city of Santa Monica using this little electricity? $200,000 / 88,000 people ~ $2.27/person right? Maybe electricity costs a little more in CA than TX, but not THAT much more.

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L7ColWinters   8/21/2009 3:19:08 PM
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I completely agree with your viewpoint on the stadium and believe that continuing to neglect the environment will make going to the game much more expensive, which in this economy means going to the game less.

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TexasEngineer   8/20/2009 6:12:14 PM
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I agree that it is enormous, but I believe you have your comparisons completely wrong. Per capita electricity consumption in the US is 12,800kWh each year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_consumption). According to your numbers, the 88000 citizens of Santa Monica each consume only 278kWh yearly. Either most Santa Monicans live in caves or they've discoved some way to consume 98% less energy than the average US citizen. Please check your numbers again. I am by no means on either side of the extreme of the green movement, but I just hope this isn't a case of deliberately trying to distort the facts to sensationalize environmental concerns. Could you instead include some real comparative data? How much energy did the old Texas Stadium require monthly? How much does the typical NFL dome stadium require? I don't know- but maybe the facts will show that this is an environmental success story rather than a disaster. I have also toured the new stadium. They did highlight that everything is bigger/better at every opportunity. They also highlighted the usage of recycled materials throughout. While there, I couldn't help but think that you could build a helluva wafer fab for its $1.5 Billion price tag... any guess how much electricity that would consume each month? A typical fab can consume 170,000,000 kWh/year, 7X that of the stadium!

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optoeng   8/20/2009 4:24:09 PM
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You can see here that the stadium is only booked for only 17 days worth of events for the entire remainder of 2009: http://eventful.com/arlington/venues/dallas-cowboys-stadium-/V0-001-001955862-3/events

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Avagadro   8/19/2009 7:40:09 PM
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Wow, Sounds like the utility bill is still less than the salary of a "good" player. Ever lived in Texas or met a Texas? They are proud of their heritage and they really do mean it when they say, everything is bigger in Texas!!! In the scheme of life, that stadium is round-off error.

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dpowell   8/19/2009 1:33:32 AM
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for the above article the new cowboys stadium is used for much more than five hours per week there are various concerts and conventions there every week in addition to soccer games so it used much more than you could ever imagine

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Carl_S   8/18/2009 5:04:19 PM
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I suppose these are valid points, but you have to understand that football stadiums, like most things we spend money on, are inherently frivolous. Why do we even need football? For that matter, why do we need television, MP3 players, cell phones, stereos? In fact, why do we need electronics at all? Because it's my job, that's why. Sorry about all the CO2.

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