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aquitaine
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re: Is IBM handing over key IC technology to China?
aquitaine   11/9/2009 2:27:24 AM
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"6. then you should shut up." "8. or they should send you to a kindergarden to write some war story for kids." Ok, that's going too far. If he's wrong then present evidence that he is wrong and/or explain your reasoning. There is no need for ad hominems here.

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jerryboone   11/8/2009 2:11:42 PM
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regards! http://www.optische-schwimmbrillen.de

aquitaine
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re: Is IBM handing over key IC technology to China?
aquitaine   11/8/2009 2:00:37 AM
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"Regarding IP, the U.S. is tough on Taiwan's IP practices. The Taiwan media is tough on Taiwan. Ask the former president. (I lived in Taiwan 5 years!) The same goes for Korea and Japan. The local media in those nations try to keep businesses (and IP issues) in line. The media is tough in Korea and Japan. Ask the Samsung Group. (Just got back from Korea). " And until relatively recently all of these countries were notorious IP violators. IP protection comes with economic development as our experience with these nations has indicated.

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will99878898   11/4/2009 7:03:59 AM
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it's sad to see EEtimes hired someone like you. 1. you are treating china as an enemy by such assumptions. 2. which is simple and naive. 3. so many US IC tech are result of hard work of foreign engineers from china etc. 4. business is business, ibm made money through this deal. 5. if you don't have any problem with fab club, or japanese don't have problem with toyota teach US how to make cars, 6. then you should shut up. 7. you can spend more time to study some industry inside stuff. 8. or they should send you to a kindergarden to write some war story for kids.

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mark.lapedus   10/27/2009 7:46:39 AM
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Hi Regarding IP, the U.S. is tough on Taiwan's IP practices. The Taiwan media is tough on Taiwan. Ask the former president. (I lived in Taiwan 5 years!) The same goes for Korea and Japan. The local media in those nations try to keep businesses (and IP issues) in line. The media is tough in Korea and Japan. Ask the Samsung Group. (Just got back from Korea). Not sure about elsewhere in Asia.

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re: Is IBM handing over key IC technology to China?
TatterSalad   10/24/2009 8:44:10 AM
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Moving Mfg. overseas is the ONLY way to go. To be competitive, and make a profit ALL manufacturing companies of any size must have an off-shore sub-corporation to protect their profits from Uncle. He taxes on PROFITS; the more in your bank at the end of the year, the more you lose. The profits from the off-shore subsideriary are taken OUTSIDE of the U.S.; these finished compenents are purchased such that what little profit made within the states allows a 'break even' tax picture. All large Pharmaceutical and Electronic producers HAVE to play this shell game.

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re: Is IBM handing over key IC technology to China?
aquitaine   10/23/2009 6:01:00 AM
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"I'm just saying that China has failed to address its IP issues" That makes it sound like either this is a problem that can be solved overnight (which it isn't) but hasn't been or that no effort is being put in solve it (which also isn't true). It's an ongoing effort. In actuality the legal framework didn't actually start to be used until about 3 years ago. In addition to China Law Blog here's an entire blog dedicated just to IP: http://ipdragon.blogspot.com/ "I lived in Taiwan many years. IP laws were broken. Hong Kong is bad. So is Korea. Don't get me started about Japan." And when was the last time any of these countries/terroritories were singled out like this when an American company liscenced tech a taiwanese/hong kongese/korean/japanese company?

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mark.lapedus   10/23/2009 2:40:02 AM
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IP theft is a worldwide issue. Ask the U.S. drug companies about Brazil. A nightmare. I lived in Taiwan many years. IP laws were broken. Hong Kong is bad. So is Korea. Don't get me started about Japan. I'm just saying that China has failed to address its IP issues. That's not China bashing. It's a simple fact.

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aquitaine   10/23/2009 2:35:06 AM
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I wish the comments section had an edit button, I'd like to submit this as an addundum to my previous post: "While as you show things are improving it looks like there's still a ways to go." Well of course things still have a ways to go. China's GDP per capita is roughly equal to Albania's, even though over all it has the third largest economy. The enitire country has a long way to go in a lot of areas.

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aquitaine   10/23/2009 2:29:44 AM
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"I'm just merely stating the facts." Facts that have been spun around. The way the facts were presented made it seem like a.) IP piracy only happens in China and b.) it isn't getting any better. "Just wondering if the U.S. is giving away the jewels?" We arn't giving anything away. If we aren't willing to liscence what we develop then what is the point to doing R&D? Part of the problem with IP in China is that foreign companies frequently don't bother to follow proper legal procedures for registering their IP in China (they also frequently don't bother following procedures for things like contracts, as well as many other things). That blog that I linked is written by a lawyer working in a foreign law firm that set up a branch office in china, and it serves chinese as well as foreign firms operating in China. I trust his word.

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