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re: Opinion: Make Asian foundries build U.S. fabs
Michael deBie   12/24/2009 6:27:27 PM
I concur with both Scott and G-Linden. However, I must stress that we should focus on not just jobs for engineers, but, jobs for skilled labor. Fabs require a significant amount of skilled labor to maintain the machines, build plants, build fab equipment, etc. The next tier of operators is also an important area of jobs. It has been my experience that the people in the skilled labor sector and the operators typically nudged their children into the field of electronic engineering. It is interesting that the number of engineering students from american high schools has declined as the number of fabs has declined. Just a thought for our dear profession of engineering.

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re: Opinion: Make Asian foundries build U.S. fabs
G-Linden   12/24/2009 8:42:32 AM
Production knowledge hasnâ??t vanished with the fabs. As EE Times articles have made clear, the leading fabless companies work in the fab with foundries during process development. Fablessness is also richer in engineering jobs than fabs. According to a calculation detailed in our new book, â??Chips and Changeâ??, fabless companies in North America in 2005 employed about six times as many engineers as all the foundries in Asia.

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re: Opinion: Make Asian foundries build U.S. fabs
ScottenJ   12/24/2009 2:20:53 AM
As a follow up comment: In 2008 TSMC made 33.5% in before tax income and Intel made 20.4% in before tax income. TSMC paid 9.8% income tax and Intel paid 31.1% income tax!

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re: Opinion: Make Asian foundries build U.S. fabs
ScottenJ   12/24/2009 1:56:54 AM
I think "making them" is a bad idea and a bad precedent plus probably not allowed under a bunch of agreements. I do think tax incentives or tax code changes for manufacturing are a good idea. Look at the tax rate for someone like TSMC in Taiwan versus the what they would pay in the US and you know why they are in Taiwan although there are also labor rate differences also contributing.

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