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StevePxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   8/2/2010 4:13:57 PM
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Quote - The "Just in time" programs are a prime example of when marketing people are given too much authority. - Not even close to the truth. JIT is a scheme between purchasing and finance. If marketing is involved it is just delivering the message.

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FH1   7/19/2010 5:54:04 PM
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Wise words Smitty1_#2; if only more firms thought and acted like yours this industry would be in a lot better shape. As for the business model issue, management seems to forget sales and profits are diagnostic ... they come from doing the right things, not be adopting the latest Business School / Industry whim. Sound;s like your firm has it's feet firmly on the ground.

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Smitty1_#2   7/19/2010 4:57:54 PM
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The "Just in time" programs are a prime example of when marketing people are given too much authority. Components can't be designed in because either there are no samples available or no small quantities available for prototype production. Lead times are sometimes over a year and the end result is that the component manufacturer has to lay people off because no one is willing to do business with them. That really helps the economy, right? Then there is always the knee jerk response to a down economy. My company suffered some layoffs but generally kept production moving and avoided the ridiculous lead times that chase away your customers. We just sat it out and tried to ignore it as best we could. The result is that we have ridden it out far better than most. My last quarterly profit sharing was 10% and we gained considerable market share. Trying to cut costs is fine, but don't let marketing "experts" shoot you in the foot. How fast do think ST will be designed out in the next revision. My company is just waiting.

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INIC   7/15/2010 10:24:58 PM
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Unfortunately this issue was created by ST Micro reported by Nikkie newspaper. This could have been an assembly related issue, hard to judge who is the blame. Word of wisdom for Hitachi, maintain few months of buffer levels. Small price to pay not to have bad publicity and major cost of line down penalty.

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Paua   7/15/2010 1:25:18 AM
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This is why we encourage GF and Samsung to compete with TSMC.

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goafrit   7/15/2010 1:24:22 AM
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I hope they are not making an excuse. The reality is that the On Demand or Just in Time manufacturing that is used by the Asian firms has negatives. It can kill a supplier chain if there is a problem somewhere. Depending on external vendor to deliver within small time window in this age will remain unreliable if you want quality. Ask Toyota, they will tell you that they pushed so much pressure to parts makers to deliver under tight time conditions. This industry is well regulated and it is unique. They must own up that Just in Time carries risks and must work and evolve that process. There is risk in all these management philosophies and nailing your supply in the press may not be a smart idea.

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goafrit   7/15/2010 1:23:25 AM
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I hope they are not making an excuse. The reality is that the On Demand or Just in Time manufacturing that is used by the Asian firms has negatives. It can kill a supplier chain if there is a problem somewhere. Depending on external vendor to deliver within small time window in this age will remain unreliable if you want quality. Ask Toyota, they will tell you that they pushed so much pressure to parts makers to deliver under tight time conditions. This industry is well regulated and it is unique. They must own up that Just in Time carries risks and must work and evolve that process. There is risk in all these management philosophies and nailing your supply in the press may not be a smart idea.

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Hi Freq   7/14/2010 1:14:55 PM
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Not so fast ! Nissan would not be the first manufacturer to provide poor forecasts to their suppliers. If Nissan did not provide a forecast for at least a period of time that exceeds the lead-time of the part, then they shot themselves in the foot !!

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junko.yoshida   7/14/2010 10:43:07 AM
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It is now widely reported that STMicroelectronics was the one to be blamed for causing Nissan's production suspension. Suspecting that might be the case, my colleague Peter Clarke got in touch with ST yesterday. Peter is sharing ST's comment in his opinion piece: "Lessons unlearned and Nissan's pigeons" http://new.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4204521/Opinion-Lessons-unlearned-Nissan-pigeons

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numberone2   7/14/2010 5:58:33 AM
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So Nissan/Hitachi had to learn the hard way about designing with Maxim. No big deal, we've all made that mistake once.

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