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CECR
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re: Exploding cell phone blamed for farmer's death
CECR   8/20/2010 6:06:28 PM
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1 gal of gasoline has 131MJ of energy! So what is the problem with electric cars? I think the incident of fiery death of drivers involved in accidents will be much lower for the electric car driver than the conventional ICE car driver.

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Karl Williamson   8/20/2010 6:04:10 PM
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In theory, it's possible -- But not very probable. SNOPES has debunk most of them for us. Here is one thatfits the same picture: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/cellcharge.asp KW

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iitywybmab   8/20/2010 2:45:30 PM
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James Etheridge from Nokia's media team posted a comment at the following URL that suggests lightning may have contributed to the incident: http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/19/indian-man-killed-by-exploding-mobile-phone/ But all in all, I think Feory's last paragraph summarizes things best at this point.

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Peter Clarke   8/20/2010 8:50:14 AM
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It is hard to understand how a mobile phone malfunction could cause death. It should be considered that when the phone is held to the ear it is also held close to the jugular vein. If someone was unlucky and a sharp fragment of phone casing cut the vein could that be responsible for fatal bleeding?

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Neo10   8/20/2010 4:59:39 AM
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Very strange, I can understand burns but death I feel is quite difficult with that kind of energy. Surely there is more to it than the burnt cell phone.

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jg_   8/19/2010 9:33:29 PM
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Interesting case. From http://www.1728.com/energy.htm I see a generic 0.22 bullet, (2gms) and 440m/s solves to 193.6 Joules. Note that the Electrical Energy, is not going to be the same as explosive/ballistic or thermal energy, once burning starts.

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Sheetal.Pandey   8/19/2010 9:04:58 PM
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I read sometime back that Nokia had been recalling some phone because they blast under some conditions. But I really wonder if that can cause death.

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dirk.bruere   8/19/2010 8:48:53 PM
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IIRC putting a small bomb in a phone was used by the Israelis to assassinate one of the leaders of Black September. How big was this phone?

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mr88cet   8/19/2010 8:30:35 PM
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According to http://www.cpkb.net/wiki/Nokia_BL-5CA_battery, that battery weighs 18g. So, at 0.5MJ/Kg, we're talking 9KJ of energy. That is, "at most," since they said he'd been talking on the phone for a while, and some of that battery mass must be inert (plastic case, contacts, etc.). So, is that the equivalent (1/2 mv^2, is it?) of an 180Kg weight hitting you at 10m/s? Well, I don't know for certain that that would be lethal, but it could definitely do some damage. I'm not a battery expert, but I can't immediately think what could cause ... or even allow ... a battery to expend all of its energy that rapidly. I really doubt if this is cause for cell phone recalls, but have to wonder about electric cars, however!

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tricot   8/19/2010 7:57:49 PM
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I gotta wonder who was on the other end of the call (and what were they talking about)?

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