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george.leopold
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george.leopold   10/13/2010 4:47:03 PM
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Reader Jerry Banks sent this by e-mail: Personally I think it should be a strategic initiative for the US government to retain as much manufacturing in the US as is possible. If that means tax credits and/or other subsidies then so be it. I’d rather “lose” a few tax dollars and see people gainfully employed than keep the tax rates high and watch our jobs disappear.

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ck_02   10/13/2010 3:15:35 PM
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This may be all well and good for these foreign students that are willing to take on multiple hats when going to a US school and having it paid for by our US tax dollars. I certainly couldn't afford multiple degrees on my own dime. It's been hard enough for most of us to pay for one degree or major area of concentration. Not to mention many of the students taking that US fed and bred education back to their homeland once they're done using up the US funding and experience.

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old account Frank Eory   10/13/2010 2:39:55 PM
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@cthughes, most of the good engineers I know are naturally curious and long ago realized that education is a life-long process and we each need to be constantly learning to wear new hats, in addition to staying current in our primary field. Advanced degrees can be a part of that life-long learning, but in general, my experience has been that most PhD's wear one hat and wear it very well (i.e., recognized expert in one narrow discipline). The multi-discipline engineers of many hats are usually the worker bees that "only" have a BS or MS degree. At least that has been my experience.

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george.leopold   10/13/2010 2:02:01 PM
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We've heard similar stories from U.S. board makers with operations in China.

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AmericanProgrammer   10/13/2010 12:07:30 PM
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@Chuck.Hill That is a bunch of crap, you never been to China, if you had you would have noticed the pollution is so bad that people have to wear masks. You would have also noticed major highways being closed down in the middle of the day due to smog. People are rude and the industrial cities are very dirty. Sure China government is proBusiness, they are getting a fee ride because U.S. corporations are making a ton of money tax free using exploited labor.

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AmericanProgrammer   10/13/2010 12:02:48 PM
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@cthughes I most certainly do not believe in Socialism, but being a Capitalist does not mean exploiting slave labor and trashing your countryman because a selfish indiviual wants to break the rules of fair play and cheat for profit. Americans cannot compete against countries that have very low cost of living expenses. People use the word socialism to justify their making a fast buck at the expense of others. Fair competition is what is all about. Telling Americans that they are stupid or not educated because corporations want to use cheap labor without tax payments is wrong and unAmerican.

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mrwood   10/13/2010 11:40:08 AM
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The company I work for closed down factories here in the US because their manufacturing capacity was under utilized. Some of these products were moved to factories overseas. The jobs were exported. Why, one wonders, were the jobe in China and elsewhaer not imported to the US to make better use of these factories. Answer...GREED!

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cthughes   10/13/2010 8:48:34 AM
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@AmericanProgrammer you believe in socialism. I work for, and own stock in corporations. I pay ~50% of my income to some sort of tax. It's interesting that you think corporations are "controlling everything" in your life, but you are not at all concerned that I work 6 months out of the year to pay for your socialist programs. Please go play on Yahoo groups. EE Times is a serious and analytical magazine.

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cthughes   10/13/2010 8:36:52 AM
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@AmericanProgrammer If you don't like the corporations increasing profits via outsourcing, you should get back at them by buying their stock and making money off of it. It is tough losing a job, but it wasn't "your" job/career. It was the companies money that they gave to you for services. That's not a "guarantee". You have to "compete" if you want a certain level of career success today. I'm sorry if lost your previous position though.

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cthughes   10/13/2010 8:29:10 AM
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The U.S.A. blew past the rest of the world without the help of the 3rd world. Please don't insult the hard working immigrants that came to the US between 1600-1900 and built the largest economy in the world.

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