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Bhola_#1
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re: IEEE kicks off energy storage effort
Bhola_#1   10/30/2010 4:45:10 AM
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It seems like an interesting topic but am not sure what this standard gonna focus at. May be it is in its beginning phase.

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old account Frank Eory   10/30/2010 2:24:58 AM
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As much as I love the IEEE, I fear this is another one of those efforts that will get sunk in a quagmire...

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Luis Sanchez   10/30/2010 2:07:07 AM
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No mention of superconductors? or are they used in some of the new technologies listed in the article? ja ja... just saw the video on beaconpower.com... now I see... and the worl will run on batteries!!!

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re: IEEE kicks off energy storage effort
DrQuine   10/25/2010 11:38:13 PM
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IEEE standards typically select a very narrow topic (e.g. a particular frequency WiFi standard). This task is more of an apples and oranges problem. There are many different ways to store energy during peak production and provide energy during peak demand as unpredictable renewable energy sources come and go. It will be interesting to see how the overall structure is crafted that is agnostic regarding the particular technologies (and the mix of those technologies) being utilized to store energy.

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sharps_eng   10/25/2010 9:05:04 PM
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The best contribution from IEEE and their global collaborators would be to focus on the lessons we could learn from history. Helping to avoid duplication of effort; outsmarting the IP-centric scheming of shareprice-driven corporates who have no concept of the 'common good'; puncturing investment bubbles based on pseudo-science; granting IEEE 'approval' for protocols and standards only in exchange for open info-packs that enable educators and starter companies to take part. Please, none of this 'Climb on board, boys, and pull up the drawbridge to keep out the others' that we've seen with SCSI and 1394, to name just two.

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LarryM99   10/25/2010 4:26:54 PM
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Energy storage is certainly an interesting topic, but I'm not sure that I understand what this group's charter is going to be. It seems too early to standardize the details of many of these technologies. Perhaps they could work on control signaling - negotiating availability of capacity and flow rates, for example. That might be worthwhile. Larry M.

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Gene_Hunt   10/25/2010 2:22:57 PM
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Prabhakar: There are a number of emerging as well as existing energy storage technologies besides batteries that can operate on a commercial level. The ones mentioned in the article (besides batteries), like compressed air, supercapacitors, and flywheels, are all operating commercially. They have different roles in the market based on storage duration, energy density, response time, and time and cost to build. You can find out much more at the Electricity Storage Association website: www.electricitystorage.org. Our company, Beacon Power, is building a 20 MW flywheel-based storage plant in New York to provide frequency regulation. It will be the first such facility in the world. When the IEEE refers to flywheels in their report, they're specifically referring to Beacon Power's grid-scale technology. More information on what we do can be found on beaconpower.com. Good luck!

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prabhakar_deosthali   10/25/2010 11:56:42 AM
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As of today I do not know any other Electricity storage technology than the batteries. So I am not clear what this new IEEE standard will address. Will be address different battery technologies? are there any other Electricity storage technologies in commercial use? Why not preserve the resources ( such as coal, water, oil) which are used to generate electricity? Why not find ways to generate these resources quickly ( apart from the Natural ways) from other waste material ? Can someone enlighten me on this?

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UdaraW   10/25/2010 6:14:03 AM
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A timely initiative by the IEEE. To my knowledge, we have been lacking global scale all-encompassing standards on electrical power for a long long time. This was partly due to the reason that power grids evolved some time prior to the global standard setting trend came to life in later half of the 20th century. I appears that IEEE and global engineering community are on time to set the standards regarding smart grid interfaces and utility energy storage. IEEE rarely fails in such efforts, and I am looking forward to the guideline they set forth. Any power guys around who can shed some light as to how the said standards would effect the power landscape in the near future?



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